thedanned
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Can anyone point me to a writeup on the removal of the electric starter? I have searched and could not find a full writeup.
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Electric Starter Removal Writeup?
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thedanned
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Sorry I should have been more specific. I want to permanently remove the starter for kick only. I found a couple threads discussing certain gears that can be removed and use of a freeze plug in place of the Mikes block off kit.
I might as well ask my questions while Im at it!
Does the right side cover have to come off or can I just remove the starter and plug the hole?
Do the transfer gears need to be removed?
I am afraid of removing anything that might require a new gasket due to the recent unreliability of MikesXS. This is prime riding season and I would go crazy having a dead bike for a couple weeks.
I might as well ask my questions while Im at it!
Does the right side cover have to come off or can I just remove the starter and plug the hole?
Do the transfer gears need to be removed?
I am afraid of removing anything that might require a new gasket due to the recent unreliability of MikesXS. This is prime riding season and I would go crazy having a dead bike for a couple weeks.
southerndime333
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you cant see the motor.. why not just leave it and pretend its not there?
blackbetty
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Buy the starter block off plate part #24-6520 and the gear train cover gasket part #18-0859 from mikes. Leave the gear train on the motor.
Voila.
I hadn't heard the freeze plug method; it would appear the mikes block off would be better at preventing oil leaks, but meh, IDK.
I too prefer kick only and the pulling the starter shaves like 2-3 lbs. off the bike along with unused wiring.
Voila.
I hadn't heard the freeze plug method; it would appear the mikes block off would be better at preventing oil leaks, but meh, IDK.
I too prefer kick only and the pulling the starter shaves like 2-3 lbs. off the bike along with unused wiring.
thedanned
XS650 Member
Haha I want it gone in the name of weight savings. Plus the gears are stripped anyway so I could spend 40+ bucks repairing it or just take the sodding thing out.
54inches
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I like it, thanks for the manual and info.....my search finger is getting tired....
There are a couple parts you have to leave inside the engine unless you want tosplit the cases. Under the starter gear cover under the front sprocket you can remove those gears. On the right behind the clutch you can remove the bendix gears. There is a small gear that holds the cross shaft in place, you want that inplace. The cross shaft and a gear inside will stay.
You can remove parts 15-22 from under the little cover (#23) on the left side and parts 1-9 from under the right side engine cover. Parts 10-14 must stay unless you split the crankcase .....
None of these parts absolutely have to be removed but if you're looking for the most you can remove, this is it.
None of these parts absolutely have to be removed but if you're looking for the most you can remove, this is it.
54inches
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Damn skippy; now that is what I am talking about!!!!! I owe ya a beer!
Thanks bud!
Thanks bud!
got556
XS650 Addict
About how much weight if removing all those parts would that save?
I'm all for light as possible and I too am going kick only/batteryless.
I'm all for light as possible and I too am going kick only/batteryless.
Starter motor weighs 6 lbs.
got556
XS650 Addict
Sheesh....didn't realize it was that heavy. So all in all about 10 lbs or so of savings?
Man between losing the fenders, battery, a bunch of electrical crap, smaller headlight, smaller tank, visual impact brat kit, etc, I'm gonna be saving a crap ton of weight. (Sorry to drift this off topic a bit)
Man between losing the fenders, battery, a bunch of electrical crap, smaller headlight, smaller tank, visual impact brat kit, etc, I'm gonna be saving a crap ton of weight. (Sorry to drift this off topic a bit)
generallee
XS650 Enthusiast
You need the gasket cause you have to have to remove the cover to get the gears out and I think to get the mikes plug installed. Also the freeze plug is like $1 or free if your at the right auto parts store. I followed someones direction and put grey rtv around the lip of the freeze plug when I installed mine. The old gasket will most likely get damaged when you removed the cover. Get some gasket remover and steel wool. I think perma bond makes the gasket remove. It's wont cost any more if you opt for the freeze plug instead of the mikes plug.
bloodthirstysystem
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WagXS
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You guys are awesome with all your cool knowledge. Thanks for making this an easy project. After this its time to rewire whole bike. [Minus starter circuit!!, Hehe]
Fernando
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You can remove parts 15-22 from under the little cover (#23) on the left side and parts 1-9 from under the right side engine cover. Parts 10-14 must stay unless you split the crankcase .....
None of these parts absolutely have to be removed but if you're looking for the most you can remove, this is it.
Do does this mean that you can simply remove the starter and just plug the whole without having to remove any other gears? No having to take the cover plate, if you dont have a spear gasket? I am curious becuase I have heard that some other bikes you have to remove the gears or when you try to kick start it the gear will fall and can cause major issued by binding and cracking the LH case cover. A friends KZ400 this happened too!
