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I used an SR500 rear wheel for my tracker also, the 18" diameter really opens up the tire choices. The bearings you need are a #6206, that's not the Yamaha number but rather the number all the manufacturers use. There may be some letters after that number, that says what kind and how many seals the bearing has. For instance, a 6206FF is a #6206 bearing and has rubber contact seals on both sides, a 6206SS is also a 6206 bearing but it has non contact steel seals. I used FF's on my wheel, that way I don't have to use the big external seal you see in the SR500's rear hub. You can use the SS's but then you'll need to find a seal that will fit inside the SR500 wheel and also over the XS650 spacer. I'm sure it could be done, but I used FF's on mine, left out the big seal and everything's working perfectly so far.

I'll save you some time: the rear wheel has to shift .400 of an inch to the left (sprocket) side of the bike. Have that much machined off of the XS650 sprocket spacer. You then have to have a spacer of the same thickness made for the brake caliper side. Once that is done, the rear wheel is centered in the bike and as an added bonus the sprockets line up perfectly. :thumbsup:

I used an XS650 caliper/mount bracket with a RD400 rear rotor, I had to add .130 between the right side inner spacer (which was the stock outer spacer for the drum brake XS650 rear wheel) and the caliper bracket so that the caliper bracket was centered over the rotor, then my custom spacer went between the caliper bracket and the swingarm. You'll need to have the 650 inner bearing spacer cut down to fit between the bearings, sorry I don't have the exact dimension handy but it's the same length as the SR500 spacer. A good machine shop can do that for you. I'm not a good machine shop :doh:, I goofed, cut mine a little too short and had to add a couple of spacer washers, I tack welded those to the ends of the spacer tube. Makes it a lot easier to install! Once the spacer is in place, if you stand the wheel up it should not slide out from between the bearings and the bearings should spin freely. There's probably .010 inch of side play between the two bearings which makes it a bit easier, i.e. if the 650 spacer is cut down to where it's, say, .008 longer than the SR500 spacer it will still work just fine.

**EDIT:** Sorry, I was sending you the wrong way with the spacer dimension. The SR500 spacer has one end smaller than the other and it is a tap fit into the sprocket side bearing (which is already a 6206, BTW). There is a 'shoulder' where that spacer is machined smaller. The dimension you need to cut the 650 spacer to is from that 'shoulder' to the brake side.

pregrid, your bike is looking GREAT! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Cumugen,
The bearings I have (New) are numbered 6204.2ZR front and 6304.2ZR rear

Leslie
 
Curmudgeon,
The bearings I have (New) are numbered 6204.2ZR front and 6304.2ZR rear

Leslie


Forgot to add that i think the 7 spoke Mag wheel was a generic fitting for several late seventies early eighties yammie.

and the O/D of the bearing recess is the same only different bearing where fitted to suit the O/D of the wheel spindle:confused::shootme:

So the O/D 52mm & O/D 47mm rear & front app 25mm width is off the XS650G XS500 and the SR500 and RD400 and possibly a lot more


Leslie
 
http://www.thebigbearingstore.com/servlet/the-475/6304-dsh-2RS-6304-dsh-ZZ-Radial-Ball/Detail

I need to finish my coffee before I start posting stuff from memory. That's two brain farts in one morning. :doh: The 6204/6304 is the correct bearing. I can promise you the .400 shift to the left for wheel/srocket alignment is correct, though.

You are correct, the mag was a generic type thing but there are some differences. The SR500 spoke design is just like the XS, it has a curve at the end where it meets the rim, the RD wheel spoke is straight at the same point. The SR wheel is also wider (IIRC it's 2.15" and the RD was 1.85") making it easier to mount wider tires. Haven't tried one or had one in my hands to compare, but I understand an XS400 rear wheel can be used as well; it's supposed to have the same spoke shape as the 650 and is 2.15" wide but there are sprocket hole differences. I don't know if the spacing thing is the same.

Like a lot of manufacturers of different stuff, Yamaha uses commonly available bearings. So it would make economic sense for them to design as many (expensive) wheels/hubs to use as common bearing OD as possible, then just swap the (inexpensive) bearings to suit stuff for different models.

If you have not taken the bearings out of the SR500 rim yet, you'll find that the sprocket side bearing is the correct size once the spacer tube is tapped out of it. I mocked mine up with the original SR bearing and one of the original XS sprocket side bearings before I did it all for real. I bought new bearings when I put it all together, I then used the old ones to fix the noisy deck on my riding lawnmower. :D
 
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A little birdie told me this tracker is running. I think it's just a rumour because Dave promised his groupie's pics and vid?

how the fuck? Yeah, got it runnin' yesterday afternoon. Carbs are not adjusted, got no idea where the timing is, but she runs. Hop to get her dialed in today. Didn't get much of a vid, but here's what I got.

 
Dave, would it be possible for you to measure your front brake hose, not including fittings? I'm leaning towards a 34 inch, but 38 maybe needed. That is based on Goodridge's pre made hose and then install the Banjo fittings. 36 would work for sure but I don't see them selling that anywhere.
 
Dave, would it be possible for you to measure your front brake hose, not including fittings? I'm leaning towards a 34 inch, but 38 maybe needed. That is based on Goodridge's pre made hose and then install the Banjo fittings. 36 would work for sure but I don't see them selling that anywhere.

Mine's approx. 32 inches, not counting fittings. A lot depends on the master and fittings you use. So, are you gonna buy the hose and put the fittings on yourself? If so you can cut the hose to fit

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You kept yours close to the bar with that 90* fitting. any special reason?

I do have the same Brembo as you. The hose's I'm talking about come premade, and have threaded fitting ends to screw the banjo fittings into. I will run mine straight down.
 
You kept yours close to the bar with that 90* fitting. any special reason?

I do have the same Brembo as you. The hose's I'm talking about come premade, and have threaded fitting ends to screw the banjo fittings into. I will run mine straight down.

Yeah, just to keep things tidy. mine comes off the master, inboard slightly in line with the right fork and then straight down the fork to the caliper. Drilled and tapped into the fork brace to anchor the brake line.
 
Some pics from the first fire-up. Took some doin', but she's on the road. Took a vid but it sucked, good one comin'. My son is my test pilot in this series, I actually took it for a ride today............I'm stoked!


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Went to a little get-together last nite. It was held at a local shop not far from me in Santa Clara, Ca, and it was the farthest I had taken the bike since getting it running- a whole 15 miles from my house. What a nite! First time down the freeway (at speeds of 70-80 mph), Bike handled well, no real problems other than a LOT of smoke out the exaust on acceleration-more on that later. Rode out there with a friend whose RD400 tracker inspired me to do this in the first place. It was a "tracker nite". LOTS of cool machinery. Pics below with the first being our bikes. First thing I noticed when we got there was all the oil sprayed and dripping from the right rear of the bike, found to be coming from the breather. Turns out the motor's got to come back out and a top end job is necessary. Damn vintage bike!! About a mile from the run coming home I discovered my charging system wasn't working. Spent about an hour on the side of the road waiting for my son-in-law to go get the truck so I could get home. Was I bummed? You betcha! Pissed? Not really. All part of the deal. At least she was on the road albeit temporarily until I fix the problems that I currently face. Enjoy!!

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Loooove the RD400 tracker...sorry to hear about your issues, but thats old bikes...time to get a PMA system.
If I had the opportunity to go to "a little get together" like that , I would be like a dog with 2 dicks, I wouldnt know what to do...some nice cycles in your part of the universe.
 
Thamks for those pics Dave. Robert was telling me about this show the other day when I called him. Those old Trumpets look cool. Any website with more pics?
 
Did you ever figure out your pipes??

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Maybe, maybe not. Robert agreed that something is not right about them, and the muff's not being close to the frame for mounting. But he also told me you have a shorter muffler than me, because you wanted louder? I told him maybe that is why mine look different? He said he was going to get a set of 1/2 miles like mine and mount them on a bike. So we will see.
 
Maybe, maybe not. Robert agreed that something is not right about them, and the muff's not being close to the frame for mounting. But he also told me you have a shorter muffler than me, because you wanted louder? I told him maybe that is why mine look different? He said he was going to get a set of 1/2 miles like mine and mount them on a bike. So we will see.

Yeah, mine are shorter (louder) although they're not obnoxious. I think the brackets are mounted in the wrong place on both our bikes. We'll see.

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