Pete, i did not recieve a reply in my email.
I also checked my spam folder and it is not there either.
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PAMCO Electronic advance
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Pete, i did not recieve a reply in my email.
I also checked my spam folder and it is not there either.
hippiehighlife
XS650 Member
hello mr. pamco pete, I just recived your. pamco kit with the e-advancer and all. I installed it as per the instructions. I have no spark. cked for 12 volts at e adance and I do. now if I am correct I was told that this setup gets rid of the tci unit? or do I still need the unit hooked up and all? need some help. my coil is the green one from mikes xs and that is also where I got the pamco kit from. so also when I pulled the plug for spark none at all. now the plugs are gaped per spec but does there need to be more gap for the system ? just frustrated hopefully I can get spark and go. please help jonathan
Keep the e-advancer unit away from the coil. I have my coil at the front of the engine, and my e-advancer behind the engine on top of my airbox. I'd say if you have 12 inches separation it should be fine, unless Pamcopete says more is needed, as he's the expert.
Edit: Here's the quote from Pete's web site:
"Mount the E-Advancer in any convenient location, but not directly above the engine or near the ignition coil. The best place is under the left side air filter cover simply tie wrapped to the wiring harness"
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hippiehighlife, You need battery voltage going to both the coil and ignition. The three wires from the E-advancer, the red hooks to battery power after the engine stop switch, this wire also hooks to one side of the coil. The green wire hooks to the other side of the coil. The black to ground.
It was just that simple when I added the E-advancer to my Pamco equipped 75.
On the TCI parts you won't need any of it. If it still functions, remove it and sell it.
I put the E-advancer under the rubber strap that holds the battery in place. Fit like a glove.
Leo
It was just that simple when I added the E-advancer to my Pamco equipped 75.
On the TCI parts you won't need any of it. If it still functions, remove it and sell it.
I put the E-advancer under the rubber strap that holds the battery in place. Fit like a glove.
Leo
glennpm
Another Old Biker Nut!
Hi Pete,
I've been thinking about this issue and am wondering if you could provide a taller brass "top hat" with a longer slot to cover the variations in required height due to the tolerance cam height of cutting and re-welding for the 277 cams. Position could be measured by the buyer and they could grind the top hat down to height to work. I of course have no idea about this difference in variation but maybe Hugh could help?
I messed up the shortest and longest positions in the attached sketch, but you get the idea I hope ;-)
Anyway my thoughts since I and others with the 277 cams would like this improvement!
Best,
Glenn
I've been thinking about this issue and am wondering if you could provide a taller brass "top hat" with a longer slot to cover the variations in required height due to the tolerance cam height of cutting and re-welding for the 277 cams. Position could be measured by the buyer and they could grind the top hat down to height to work. I of course have no idea about this difference in variation but maybe Hugh could help?
I messed up the shortest and longest positions in the attached sketch, but you get the idea I hope ;-)
Anyway my thoughts since I and others with the 277 cams would like this improvement!
Best,
Glenn
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jasonslackisrad
XS650 Enthusiast
Hey Pete,
I had ordered this for my 82, but I think I'm going to install it on my 76. I read on the instructions "Note: Later kits have just three washers with two of them slotted. The washers are slightly thicker so only a total of three are required."
I was just wondering if you had different kits or could just tell me which washers i need to get.
Thanks!
I had ordered this for my 82, but I think I'm going to install it on my 76. I read on the instructions "Note: Later kits have just three washers with two of them slotted. The washers are slightly thicker so only a total of three are required."
I was just wondering if you had different kits or could just tell me which washers i need to get.
Thanks!
The washers that come with the kit are the right ones. The early kits used thinner washers, The later come with thicker. I think the thinner was what was available at the time, then Pete found thicker washers. So he started using the thicker washers.
Leo
Leo
Glenn. I'm not sure that would work as you think. The notch can't be made deeper. It has to be as it is because the pressure of the notch on the pin is what keeps the pin from falling out.
Making a longer cap that can be ground to match isn't a bad idea. You would need to adjust the notch as well.
Leo
Making a longer cap that can be ground to match isn't a bad idea. You would need to adjust the notch as well.
Leo
Frankenbob
XS650 Addict
Just trying to learn from you guys and plan in advance i have a 76 xs650 and i want to do away with the points what is the most complete system kit i can buy to go elec. ign. and pma
For the Pamco Mike's. For the PMA go with Hugh's Handbuilt. Mike's has a complete Pamco/PMA kit but with Hugh's PMA you get great customer support that Mike's can't give.
The Pamco gets great customer support too. Both Hugh and Pete are on here.
Leo
The Pamco gets great customer support too. Both Hugh and Pete are on here.
Leo
Frankenbob
XS650 Addict
Kool thanks is there a big price diff.between Hugh's pma or mikes ? I like everything i've seen of Hugh's wish i could afford one of his motor builds.
Mike's PMA is $279, Hugh's is $319. $40 more.
With mike's you get the PMA, but if you have trouble with it you get nothing from Mike's.
With Hugh you have trouble, he will help you get it working.
Well worth the $40.
Leo
With mike's you get the PMA, but if you have trouble with it you get nothing from Mike's.
With Hugh you have trouble, he will help you get it working.
Well worth the $40.
Leo
glennpm
Another Old Biker Nut!
No problem that could easily be done. If Pete put the notch in for the tallest copper top hat, and you had a "long" 277 cam, you could jsut extend the notch and grind the height to suit.
pamcopete
Ride.Enjoy.Life is Simple
The new design advancer adapter is now available. It can be ordered on line at www.yamahaxs650.com for $2.00 plus shipping. Use the pull down on the left side of the home page. It's the third item. New installation instructions are also included, only this time the rotor must be installed on the advance rod first. There are no washers with this new setup, it's made from a solid aluminum billet and engages the advance rod and cam shaft locating pins.
jasonslackisrad
XS650 Enthusiast
The new design advancer adapter is now available. It can be ordered on line at www.yamahaxs650.com for $2.00 plus shipping. Use the pull down on the left side of the home page. It's the third item. New installation instructions are also included, only this time the rotor must be installed on the advance rod first. There are no washers with this new setup, it's made from a solid aluminum billet and engages the advance rod and cam shaft locating pins.
Just wondering what the benefit of this new adapter is? I have yet to do my install. But if it is more reliable, maybe ill drop an order for the new adapter as well.
Very nice part. With the thicker points of contact on the pins it shouldn't have the slippage problems of the copper cap.
Leo
Leo
Looks real good Pete...................just placed my order.
jd750ace
Front Toward Enemy
Also, the new design holds the pins captive against centrifugal force. I've had no issues with the copper cap, but understand the "why" of the revised design.
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