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[retiredgentleman]

Peanut,

Not the bike that is crying out. It's me. I struggle with the concept of preservation and enjoyment. What is the sense owning something just to look at it? (and I say this having done both before). Yes, if a museum offered to buy it or trade me a 'rider' I would be open to it. But not a lot of bike museums with stock xs650's in them. Maybe a few bobbers or trackers as that was part of the history. Anyway I will do period correct mods (mostly). Steerer bearings, swing arm bushings, rear shock, ignition, pods, pipes. The things that were done by most everyone who bought these in the 70s/80s. These were the shortcomings then. So this will essential be stock bike with the 'should have come from factory' mods. The seat will be clip in, and I will have the stock one still, and I'll just swap the pipes rather than chop up a mint set, etc. Most things will not be noticeable to people other than a trained eye, and those people should give a nod of approval. hopefully. cheers mate, will keep you posted.

You have a super nice bike there. I see no need to do anything to it, other than a different seat, if that suits you better. Looks like the stock rototiller bars have been changed, and that's a good thing.

With such low miles, the steering bearings, swing arm bushings, and rear shocks should all be in great condition. The TCI ignition is an excellent ignition, why change that??

Pods and pipes...................everybody changes those, why not be different from the crowd and keep the stock air box and exhaust.

Blueing of the right exhaust.....................running too lean perhaps.
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[walden22]

Retiredgentleman,

You think the bars were changed? I assumed stock as they have the welded in bar end weights and the crosshatch matches perfectly. Also the bend is parallel to the brake fluid reservoir.
Blueing is equal on both right and left. All the rubber pieces in the carb are dried out, guy i bought it from was original owner who had a friend 'get it running' a few years ago. I suspect it was ridden 100miles or so with an air leak causing a lean condition. When I opened the carbs the pilot jet plugs, float needle, mixture screw o ring were all loose and dried out. I just did a total carb rebuild. still have a slight clanking sound in the motor. not sure if that is normal or if its a cam/valve adjustment needed. I will check them soon and then post a video to see if anyone else knows. Might be normal. Needs pipes, bike is too quiet for me, mostly hearing engine noises and little to no exhaust note. Emission standards in early 80s were miserable. Also they were factory lean... not a good thing at all. So needs to be fixed.

 

[peanut]

its a real dilemma isn't it !

I have a 50 year old Lambretta scooter which is almost original but unlike your bike it is in a well used state

Part of me feels I should keep it and run it as it is rust and all in the spirit of retaining its 50 year old patina and History .

Another part of me says....its 50 years old you have to expect most scoots to have been upgraded maintained, repaired and improved over that period so there is nothing wrong with blasting and respraying the metalwork and building a new upgraded engine etc which would completely destroy anything original on the scoot.

Others might say hold on whats the point of taking a 50 year old wreck and pouring £1000's into it restoring it when for a fraction of that you could buy a nearly new scoot which is faster safer and more economical to run ....arghhh

I've decided to repair /replace all necessary mechanical components to make it safe, legal and pleasurable to ride and keep it rusty looking as it is . God knows what my neighbours are going to think .

 

[retiredgentleman]

Retiredgentleman,

You think the bars were changed? I assumed stock as they have the welded in bar end weights and the crosshatch matches perfectly. Also the bend is parallel to the brake fluid reservoir.
Blueing is equal on both right and left. All the rubber pieces in the carb are dried out, guy i bought it from was original owner who had a friend 'get it running' a few years ago. I suspect it was ridden 100miles or so with an air leak causing a lean condition. When I opened the carbs the pilot jet plugs, float needle, mixture screw o ring were all loose and dried out. I just did a total carb rebuild. still have a slight clanking sound in the motor. not sure if that is normal or if its a cam/valve adjustment needed. I will check them soon and then post a video to see if anyone else knows. Might be normal. Needs pipes, bike is too quiet for me, mostly hearing engine noises and little to no exhaust note. Emission standards in early 80s were miserable. Also they were factory lean... not a good thing at all. So needs to be fixed.

The side picture of the bike, doesn't give the best view of the handlebars, but they appear to have been changed from the buckhorns. A few more pics would help.

Yes, dried out rubber parts are likely the biggest problem area on a bike that's been asleep for a long time. Even though the tires have very little wear, the rubber may have deteriorated.....................most people consider 8 to 10 years as a maximum life span, even with no mileage. Same story for the rubber brake lines; safety says they need to be replaced with new lines.

 

[dbdesigns]

Hey guys
am i reading the id correctly?
my bike says 2F0-204173
1979??
Thanks

here's a couple pics

 

[650Skull]

Hey guys
am i reading the id correctly?
my bike says 2F0-204173
1979??
Thanks

80SG Should have a clip on seat the 79 had a side hinged seat.

Look through page 4 and 5 for the differences in models

here's a couple pics

Refer to my previous post and the linkl. Your pics confirm my post.
80SG production dates are from Aug 79 - July 80

 

[dbdesigns]

Refer to my previous post and the linkl. Your pics confirm my post.
80SG production dates are from Aug 79 - July 80

Thanks 650Shull

 

[650Skull]

dbdesigns, The bike looks quite tidy.

Not sure about the spiks on the rear of the guards though, wouldn't like to see the damage when the rear of the front guard pokes into the tire whilst going down the road.

 

[dbdesigns]

dbdesigns, The bike looks quite tidy.

Not sure about the spiks on the rear of the guards though, wouldn't like to see the damage when the rear of the front guard pokes into the tire whilst going down the road.

I know...first thing to go .....lol

 

[benkd53]

Hello, I am about to go buy this bike and i need help identifying it, i checked on various charts and can't seem to find the ID anywhere. the seller said the 1978 vin is 447-106460. Here is a pic. I have been looking for more than a year and i'm really hoping this is the one. any help would be greatly appreciated! oh yeah, I am looking for a xs650 standard, not a special.

 

[gggGary]

1975 XS650B It's a standard

XS-B (US) 75 VIN starts at 447- 100101

Looks to be in good to very good condition. But you will have plenty to do to keep you busy for a while!

 

[benkd53]

holy fast reply! thank you. yeah, I guess it doesn't run, and clearly the seller knows about as much about this bike as i do. very little. I was looking for '77-'79. but this bike looks to be in decent shape and the price is right. now if i can just get a title from NY DMV my cafe racer project can begin. thanks again... if i buy it later today i'm sure you will be seeing a lot more of me on this forum.

 

[gggGary]

Well if you gotta cut it up keep all the paint and gauges stock, sell or trade them for whatever you want to use for a cafe. If that paint is as good as the blurry pics show it's a keeper.

 

[benkd53]

i agree. i anxious to see it in person. he sent me a pic of the inspection sticker and it looks like it hasn't been on the road since 1987. no doubt it will need some love. the title has me the most concerned though. I know i've read some nightmare stories in the past. i'll have to do some research on that. I'm pretty pumped though. i just hope the guy doesn't sell it out from under me before i get there tonight. yes, that has happened to me more than once.

 

[clancy]

My engine VIN is 447-704489
But Its no listed on any of the charts people have posted :bang head:

I have checked the number and rechecked it hoping I copied it down wrong...is there something Im missing?

 

[650Skull]

US 77D.......... 447-700101 to 724061.

Here is an updated Chart

 

[Jon1wdsmen]

I just picked up a '73 TX650 US engine, Due to what the vin says (S650-209952). Is this a 447 engine? Or which type?

 

[gggGary]

a 73 TX650 is a 256 motor, technically it's a 306 (256 w e/start) A 74 TX650 has a 447 motor. 72-73 motor has (or had) the decompression arm tappet cover

 

[Jon1wdsmen]

We'll no decompression arm tappet cover but e-start. Wish it was 447, new cylinder piston kit would be easy. It has the roller type cam tensioner on it. I have an 80 G model and want to use the head on the TX for the 80 G.

 

[Pepijnwk]

Hi I have just joined this forum and gathering lots of info! Super!!
I have just bought an xs-1 in boxes and I have to do a complete restoration.
It is a Dutch bike with matching numbers, VIN is s650-025329.
My question is is it a xs-1B or F?
And how should the front fender be attached?
I see the following:

And

Both attachments are seen on the candy orange bikes. But what is correct for my bike?
Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!