The cast Yamaha wheels aren't Comstars. Comstars are riveted together. The Yamaha wheels are one piece. Later ones are tubeless. The 1980 Special II has chromed steel spoke wheels. They require tubes. With the spoke wheels, you can lace the hubs to whatever rims you want.Whats a good option to easily increase the rear rim size to a 18 inch? Is that really the biggest difference?
Are these special spoked steel rims preferable to comstars?
Whats a good option to easily increase the rear rim size to a 18 inch? Is that really the biggest difference?
Are these special spoked steel rims preferable to comstars?
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The 400's Standards had drum and spokes. Specials had disc and mags. That's either a Standard with Special tank and seat, or Special with Standard wheels and brakes. I'm guessin' the latter.That Special with the drum front brake is interesting - I've never seen one quite like that.
Pete
That '75 tank looks like it might be a find. I wrote the seller asking what its condition is. No answer yet.
I think that's an end of production run Heritage Special. I can't be sure what the last year was or what wheels & brakes were stock.That Special with the drum front brake is interesting - I've never seen one quite like that.
Pete
Judging by all the chrome bits being black, I suspect you're right Marty.I think that's an end of production run Heritage Special. I can't be sure what the last year was or what wheels & brakes were stock.
This popped up locally for $900. I am not familiar with this year 1980. What is there to know about it? Good base for a resto mod?
Are the wheels tubeless? I actually like the comstar wheels of the special more than these. Is the rear 16 inch wheel that undesirible?
Or are these spoked wheels good?
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The key point to note is that your bike has a non-standard number of spokes in the front wheel (64 versus the usual 48 spokes) and the rear wheel (48 spokes versus the usual 36 - I think) and so the hub is unique and the rim must match it - and the spokes are not the standard length. The tires are not tubeless - you must run tubes in these wheels.
Nonetheless, I have done the swap from 16" to 18" on my 1980 XS650SH Special II - as have a number of other folks on the forum. MikesXS sells the correct rim and set of spokes to do it - but the task is non-trivial unless you have experience at spoking wheels (and I did not). Be careful to mark the spoke holes in the hub and the corresponding holes in the rim VERY carefully - and be prepared to put it together and take it apart a number of times.
You can check out my thread here: http://www.xs650.com/threads/build-thread-special-to-cafe-bike.48165/page-29
If you buy it - start a build thread and be sure to keep us posted!
Pete
You're absolutely right. There's no money in restoring an XS650. I think that's probably true of most stuff.I have to disagree with Maxpete on the wheels. hat bike has 36 spoke wheels front and back. 79/80/81 Special II's, all had 16" rear/19" front 36 spoke wheels
The one your looking at
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82 heritage special with 64 spoke front and 48 spoke rear
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For $900 and a worn out bike with a suspect motor compared to the 80G/SII that madmax-im is selling for $2850.00 is no comparison.
after spending 2,000.00 on the $900 one you still wont have a bike in anywhere near as good a condition
here are the for sale adds for the bike by the PO before Madmax-im bought it. First add the Po decided to keep it for a bit longer................. has some history about the bike
https://www.xs650.com/threads/1980-special-two-keeping-it.50690/
https://www.xs650.com/threads/80-special-two.55168/
You're absolutely right. There's no money in restoring an XS650. I think that's probably true of most stuff.
You did great in my book. I justify the expense by considering how much I'd spend if I played golf or some other silly pastime.I broke exactly even on it.
Racing a sailboat just became "really silly"You did great in my book. I justify the expense by considering how much I'd spend if I played golf or some other silly pastime.