My mistress "the dirty screamer" build log

Mellowyellow said:
If i did it again I would go 21/21.
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I am having a heck of a time deciding. I am supposed to drop my bike of week after next to get a 3-4 inch stretch and possibly a 5-6 degree rake. I need to know what wheels I am going to run but I am afraid I will get the frame setup a certain way and regret it later. I wish I could get ahold of more pics of bikes with 21's front and back. Fong Bros Cream XS is a great looking bike with 21's front and back, which is where I first got the idea.

Why do you wish you had 21's? Your stance looks killer. Just wish it was more balanced or what?
 
Just because I always want what I cant have hahaha, Just thought it might look better but im happy with the 18, Next bike will be 21x21 and not raked out as much. One bike at a time.

For now I still need to insulate the Garage install my new Mr. heater and completely wire the garage. I ran a 200Amp sub panel out there last days off and I have all the lighting. Its still a small space (2 car garage) so I need to spend some time and figure out how I want to lay it all out.
 
You got me all screwed up man! I am supposed to drop my bike off Wednesday and tell he guy what I will be running for wheels and because of you I can't make up my mind:D

I think that the 18" rear tire is probably not much different in height than the 21" at the end of the day. From what I read the 18" tire is 27.5 inches tall and though I can't seem to find the actual height of a 21" tire anywhere I can't imagine it has more than 3.25" of height to the tire, which would make it 27.5". Shouldn't affect setup for the frame work i don't think.

You have a pic of your exhaust turned in to run under the bike. Are you thinking of going that route? That is what I plan to do, run it under the frame and turn it out in front of the back wheel.
 
Hey Mellowyellow, Dropped my bike of to be hardtailed and raked today. The guy is going to give me 5 or 6 degrees and he was talking about needing to possibly go 2' over on another set of forks in order to keep the height up, cause I am 6'6" and don't want to go too low. I am thinking I can just keep my stock tubes and still end up with a 4 1/2 or 5" ride height. You are still running your stock tubes right? I saw that you were actually planning on lowering the front end even more so if yours are stock I should be good.

He's supposed to set mine up this week and I don't want him setting it up expecting 2" overs if I don't need em.
 
Mellowyellow said:
List of Bikes with 320mm rotors and 80mm 6 bolt circle

APRILIA AF 1 FUTURA 125 1990-1992
APRILIA RS 125 2006-2008
APRILIA RS EXTREMA REPLICA 125 1993-2005
APRILIA PEGASO FACTORY 660 2005-2007
APRILIA PEGASO STRADA 660 2005-2007
APRILIA PEGASO TRAIL 660 2005-2007
APRILIA SHIVER 750 2007-2008
APRILIA MANA 850 2007-2008
APRILIA RSV - SP 1000 1998-2000
APRILIA RSV - SP 1000 2001-2004
APRILIA RSV R 1000 1998-2000
APRILIA RSV R 1000 2001-2004
APRILIA RSV R FACTORY 1000 2004-2008
APRILIA SL FALCO / R 1000 2000-2004
APRILIA TUONO R 1000 2006-2007
APRILIA TUONO R FACTORY 1000 2006-2008
BENELLI TORNADO LE 900 2002-2003
BENELLI TORNADO RS 900 2004-2005
BENELLI TORNADO TRE 900 2003
BENELLI TNT CAFE' RACER 1130 2006-2008
BENELLI TNT SPORT 1130 2006
BENELLI TNT TITANIUM 1130 2005-2006
BENELLI TORNADO TRE 1130 2007-2008
BIMOTA V-DUE 500 1997>
BIMOTA YB9 SRI 600 1996-1999
BIMOTA SUPERMONO 650 1995-1996
BIMOTA SUPERMONO BIPOSTO 650 1996-1997
BIMOTA DB 2 SR EDIZIONE FINALE 900 1997-1998
BIMOTA MANTRA DB3 900 1995-1998
BIMOTA DB 4 904 1998-1999
BIMOTA DB4 I.E. 904 2000>
BIMOTA SB 8 K 1000 2000-2004
BIMOTA SB 8 K 1000 2005>
BIMOTA SB 8 R 1000 1997-1999
CAGIVA MITO EURO 2 125 2004-2006
CAGIVA MITO EV 125 1994-1999
CAGIVA MITO EV 6 speed 125 1999-2000
CAGIVA N1 PLANET 125 1998-2003
CAGIVA RAPTOR 125 2004
CAGIVA SUPERCITY 125 1997-1999
CAGIVA RIVER 500 1995-1998
CAGIVA RIVER 500 1999
DUCATI MONSTER 400 2005-2008
DUCATI MONSTER 600 1993-1999
DUCATI MONSTER 600 2000-2001
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 600 1994-2001
DUCATI MONSTER 620 2002-2005
DUCATI MONSTER DARK 620 2005
DUCATI SPORT 620 2003
DUCATI MONSTER 695 2007
DUCATI 748 748 1999-2002
DUCATI MONSTER 750 1996-2002
DUCATI SPORT 750 1974-1976
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 750 1999-2002
DUCATI SPORT 800 2003
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 800 2003-2004
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 800 2005-2007
DUCATI 851 BIPOSTO 851 1991-1992
DUCATI SPORT 851 1990
DUCATI 888 888 1993-1995
DUCATI MH EVOLUZIONE 900 2001-2002
DUCATI MONSTER 900 1993-1999
DUCATI MONSTER 900 2000-2002
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 900 1992-1997
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 900 1998-2002
DUCATI 916 BIPOSTO / STRADA / SP / SENNA 916 1994-1998
DUCATI 916 SPS 916 1997
DUCATI 996 996 1999-2001
DUCATI 998 998 2002-2003
DUCATI SPORT CLASSIC PAUL SMART 1000 2006
DUCATI ST3 1000 2005-2007
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 1000 2003-2006
GILERA GFR 125 1993-1994
KTM SUPERDUKE 990 2005
LAVERDA GHOST 650 1996-1997
LAVERDA GHOST 650 1998>
LAVERDA SPORT 650 1995-1997
LAVERDA SPORT 650 1998-2002
LAVERDA STRIKE 750 1998-1999
MOTO GUZZI BREVA 750 2004-2005
MOTO GUZZI NEVADA CLASSIC 750 2002-2005
MOTO GUZZI DAYTONA 1000 1991-1994
MOTO GUZZI DAYTONA RACING 1000 1996>
MOTO GUZZI BREVA 1100 2005-2006
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA EV SPECIAL 1100 1997-1998
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA EV SPECIAL 1100 1999-2000
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA EV TOURING 1100 2003-2005
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA JACKAL 1100 2000>
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA STONE 1100 2002-2005
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA TITANIUM 1100 2003-2005
MOTO GUZZI GRISO 1100 2006
MOTO GUZZI SPORT 1100 1996-1999
MOTO GUZZI V10 CENTAURO / GT 1100 1997-1999
MOTO GUZZI V11 CAFE' SPORT BALLABIO 1100 2003-2005
MOTO GUZZI V11 COPPA ITALIA 1100 2003-2004
MOTO GUZZI V11 COPPA ITALIA 1100 2005
MOTO GUZZI V11 LE MANS SPORT-NAKED 1100 2002-2005
MOTO GUZZI V11 LE MANS-NAKED 1100 2001-2002
MOTO GUZZI V11 SPORT 1100 1999-2000
MOTO GUZZI V11 SPORT 1100 2001
MOTO MORINI 9 1/2 1200 2007
MOTO MORINI CORSARO 1200 2006-2007
YAMAHA DTR 125 1989-1991
YAMAHA TZR 125 1999>
YAMAHA TZR R 125 1992-1998
YAMAHA FZX-ZEAL 250 1993>
YAMAHA TDR 250 1987-1992
YAMAHA TZ GP 250 1996-1997
YAMAHA TZR 250 1989-1992
YAMAHA SRX 400 1991-1995
YAMAHA SRX 400 1996>
YAMAHA SZR 660 1996>
YAMAHA FZR 1000 1989-1991
YAMAHA FZR 1000 1992-1993
YAMAHA FZR GENESIS 1000 1987-1989
YAMAHA XJR 1200 1995>
YAMAHA XJR 1300 1998
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:yikes: build porn.. Thanks.!!:thumbsup:
 
kelso said:
Hey Mellowyellow, Dropped my bike of to be hardtailed and raked today. The guy is going to give me 5 or 6 degrees and he was talking about needing to possibly go 2' over on another set of forks in order to keep the height up, cause I am 6'6" and don't want to go too low. I am thinking I can just keep my stock tubes and still end up with a 4 1/2 or 5" ride height. You are still running your stock tubes right? I saw that you were actually planning on lowering the front end even more so if yours are stock I should be good.

He's supposed to set mine up this week and I don't want him setting it up expecting 2" overs if I don't need em.
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I ending up lowering mine 3", Good luck with the build.:thumbsup:
 
On a stock XS650 the ride height is 5.5 inches. Depending on the hardtail's drop the ride hieght will drop. A 2 inch hardtail drop with stock wheels, tires and front end will give you about 3.5 inch ride height.
I'm not sure how much adding 5 to 6 degrees rake will drop the ride height but 2 inches sounds about right.
So that drops the ride height to 1.5 inches.
You may need more than 2 over forks. Wont really know till the mods are done. Once done put on your rear wheel and tire. Block up frame to the ride hieght you want. Install the trees. Get some Pipe, conduit, what ever will fit in the trees. Wont need to be A great fit.
Hammer one end flat and drill the fllat end to match the axle. Put this temporary front fork into the trees. Put your front wheel on this temp fork. Slide the forks up or down in the trees to get the front tire on the ground.
Now measure from the center of the axle to the top of the trees.
A stock XS650 fork is about 29 3/4 inches long. Now subtract the stock length from the temp fork length. This is how much longer the fork tubes need to be plus an inch or two to allow for fork travel.
Leo
 
On the tire hieght, you can get very close with this formula.
On a metric size tire, Width x Aspect Ratio x 2 divided by 25.4 + wheel size. The 25.4 is used because 1 inch = 25.4 mm.
Lets say you want to find the height of a 120/90-18 tire, The width is 120, the Aspect ratio is 90, 18 is wheel size.
120 x 90% = 108 x 2 = 216 divided by 25.4 = 8.5 + 18 = 26.5 inches tall.
A tire with just a number size as in 4.00-18 the aspect ratio is 100% So in this case the formula is
Width x 2 + wheel size As in
4.00 x 2 = 8 + 18 = 26 inches tall.
A 3.25-21 is 3.25 x 2 = 6.5 + 21 is 27 inches tall.
Maybe the number tires are 90 Aspect Ratio. If so then the formulla is Width x Aspect Ratio x 2 + wheel size. If so the 3.25-21 woud be
3.25 x 90% = 2.9 x 2 = 5.8 + 21 = 26.8 inches tall.
Even at that it's less than a 1/4 inch.
Leo
 
XSLeo said:
On the tire hieght, you can get very close with this formula.
On a metric size tire, Width x Aspect Ratio x 2 divided by 25.4 + wheel size. The 25.4 is used because 1 inch = 25.4 mm.
Lets say you want to find the height of a 120/90-18 tire, The width is 120, the Aspect ratio is 90, 18 is wheel size.
120 x 90% = 108 x 2 = 216 divided by 25.4 = 8.5 + 18 = 26.5 inches tall.
A tire with just a number size as in 4.00-18 the aspect ratio is 100% So in this case the formula is
Width x 2 + wheel size As in
4.00 x 2 = 8 + 18 = 26 inches tall.
A 3.25-21 is 3.25 x 2 = 6.5 + 21 is 27 inches tall.
Maybe the number tires are 90 Aspect Ratio. If so then the formulla is Width x Aspect Ratio x 2 + wheel size. If so the 3.25-21 woud be
3.25 x 90% = 2.9 x 2 = 5.8 + 21 = 26.8 inches tall.
Even at that it's less than a 1/4 inch.
Leo
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Great info, thanks Leo. I had it set up to run 21's and it sets about 4.5 inches off of the ground with the stock forks at 34 degrees. It'll be 92" long tip to tail. i think the stance is pretty good but it is on blocks cause I don't have the 21's yet
 

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