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jd750ace
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It's not about hunting. Social Darwinism exists, and I support it.
We will defeat tyranny the same way we ran the crown out of the colonies my good man. Persistence. Precision, and Patience.
My neighbor has his shoots on private property, not a range, and the control is the discipline of the people operating the equipment, just and any weapon.
Just keep yourself and your "ideas" on that soggy island, and you'll be fine!
acebars
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jd750ace said:
nj1639 said:
These two statement are diametrically opposed!
I would say civility is about not needing weapons to resolve things and behaving in a civilised manner without the requirement of force or fear of force, no?That was before the 2nd amendment! Good luck defeating Tyranny with your current small arms load out!
Very well, but will you please keep your "shootings" out of our headline news, I'm tired of hearing about it!
Acebars, double check your logic. I don't mean your opinions, which are your right, but the logic backing up your opinions.
Regarding your question about "storming" this or that at some point in the dark, dim future after all of us living today are long gone, which you think people are avoiding. Force is only one part of strategy. Read your history.
Regarding a constitutional convention to change the Constitution, that might be a dangerous thing right now - I think people at present are motivated too much by compulsion and too little by thought.
Regarding your question about "storming" this or that at some point in the dark, dim future after all of us living today are long gone, which you think people are avoiding. Force is only one part of strategy. Read your history.
Regarding a constitutional convention to change the Constitution, that might be a dangerous thing right now - I think people at present are motivated too much by compulsion and too little by thought.
An individuals right to bear arms.......
Being questioned by the police about defending yourself is better than being on the slab waiting for the forensic technician to determine your cause of death.
Being questioned by the police about defending yourself is better than being on the slab waiting for the forensic technician to determine your cause of death.
Peanut you traitor!
I don't shoot anymore for time reasons and as I'm not in the countryside, but more than 7 years ago, we'd go out all the time with shotguns either just for informal treks or organised shoots (partridge, pheasant and fowl etc.) and .22s in the garden, I've also been to ranges several times to fire GPMGs and SA80s and I believe even more guns should be controlled!
I'm sorry about what happened in your case (could you not have donated them to a gun club?) my uncle was part of such a club, but in the case of American gun culture, I wouldn't be happy if my neighbour had a GPMG, would you?
only if I also had the right to own one lol
It's not about getting rid of guns, it's what guns should be allowed!
donate my rare vintage gun collection to a gun club ?
we had to hand them in for destruction Some of them would have had a value well in excess of £1000 today ! like the mint 1911 Commercial Colt .45 I owned with a very low serial number.
Some of my out of print reference books on firearms are worth several hundred pounds each but .we got nocompensation for them and they are not much use to a collector who can't collect
Anyway they were all cat 5 and only dealers and some special catorgory users are allowed to even hold them since 1997.
This whole gun control debate is very interesting and like you I would really welcome some sensible control but in the US that would conflict with the 2nd Amendment and if you start bending the Amendments where would it all stop ?
It would end up like our Fox hunting Law which is inaffective,confusing and completely unworkable as it stands.
I wouldn't presume to try tell our American Cousins how to live ...their culture and history has some important differences but I do feel I have the right to discuss the UK gun Laws though because they effect me personally
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and there speaks someone who is native to a Country that has swamps that cover vast areas..... some 1000sq milesThink you lose that one JD
Rush2112
Working Man
Your M-16s and small arms are not going to stop tyranny, I keep repeating with no answer what are you going to do storm the White House? When like I have said they have the US Army, High tech rocketry, Strike Drones, ICBMs, Nukes, Abrams and Apaches?
Answer;
Only a moron would ask and or answer this question in a public forum on the internet...............
How's that for a frank and well made argument?
Answer;
Only a moron would ask and or answer this question in a public forum on the internet...............
How's that for a frank and well made argument?
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jd750ace
Front Toward Enemy
Think you lose that one JD
We have enough "other" lands to make up for it, but we have our fair share of eternally wet ground!
Only been to the British Isles 3 times and never saw the sun! The Pacific Northwest seems to have a lot in common with you weather. The Royal Marines always seemed to have the right gear when they were visiting us and training with the 1st Special Forces Group.I was there in Wahington off and on for 3 1/2 years between deployments when I was in the Army.
My maternal bloodline is all English, BTW, but we've all been here since the 1830's.
We have enough "other" lands to make up for it, but we have our fair share of eternally wet ground!
I was there in Wahington off and on for 3 1/2 years between deployments when I was in the Army.
My maternal bloodline is all English, BTW, but we've all been here since the 1830's.
good to be able to trace your 'roots'
luckily for you not back to the starving time though ....The Romans said the same thing about our weather lol.....If you visit Britain make sure you stay in the south lol if you want to see some occasional sunshine
.If you visit Britain make sure you stay in the south lol if you want to see some occasional sunshine
It's no wonder the British set out to colonize any other place they could. The French though, I've read they never really had as much of an interest in going someplace else. Topless beaches.
I spent a week in London in the `60s. Will never forget Continental Breakfasts, soft-boiled eggs in that little egg cup, and London Broil. Gads, gettin' hungry...
acebars
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donate my rare vintage gun collection to a gun club ?
Some of them would have had a value well in excess of £1000 today ! like the mint 1911 Commercial Colt .45 I owned with a very low serial number.
Some of my out of print reference books on firearms are worth several hundred pounds each but .we got nocompensation for them and they are not much use to a collector who can't collect
Anyway they were all cat 5 and only dealers and some special catorgory users are allowed to even hold them since 1997.
This whole gun control debate is very interesting and like you I would really welcome some sensible control but in the US that would conflict with the 2nd Amendment and if you start bending the Amendments where would it all stop ?
It would end up like our Fox hunting Law which is inaffective,confusing and completely unworkable as it stands.
I wouldn't presume to try tell our American Cousins how to live ...their culture and history has some important differences but I do feel I have the right to discuss the UK gun Laws though because they effect me personally
Peanut I had a look into this, only hand guns were banned in the UK in 1997, you can buy an AR-15 remington calibre but only with a certificate, background checks and only bolt action or single shot.
Also as far as the 1997 Act:
Why didn't your hand guns fall under those categories?
P.S. Agree with the bit you wrote about the fox hunting ban btw, that was a ludicrous piece of British incompetent left-wingery.
jd750ace
Front Toward Enemy
AR-15s. Cute little rifles.
Bolt action, 5 shots, shoots through car engines a mile away. NOT a school sprayer.
Bolt action, 5 shots, shoots through car engines a mile away. NOT a school sprayer.
It's the look. Same thing happened in the `70s. Anybody on a chopper was a 'hells angel'....
jd750ace
Front Toward Enemy
Well, the ergonomics of the AR receiver are very good, so it's getting mimicked a lot.
Pic above is a Barrett M98B in .338 Lapua. Absolute beast. Overt $5.00 a shot, and costs about half a 4 door car. If you bring the talent, it delivers.
Pic above is a Barrett M98B in .338 Lapua. Absolute beast. Overt $5.00 a shot, and costs about half a 4 door car. If you bring the talent, it delivers.
Didn't a British marine set a record in Afganistan using one of those while protecting a supply route, distance exceeding 2 miles?
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