sledge hammer or patience

gggGary · May 19, 2016

You will have to be pretty good with a hand drill to get it out to 5/8", cut off blade in a grinder or sawzall would be my goto if it won't move.

This one was a bit reluctant but came out. Just maybe it was a stubborn thing. I recollect an 8 pound sledge being involved on it's side with blocking to the ground.

Got two frames engines etc for $50 woo hoo LOL

That thing looked like it had been run over by a truck wasn't anything wasn't bent or broke including the clutch cover but it cranks and has good compression!

fredintoon · May 19, 2016

gggGary said:
You will have to be pretty good with a hand drill to get it out to 5/8" cut off blade in a sawsall if it won't move.

Hi Gary,
I was thinking of drilling with one of those big cast metal power drills from a tool rental place, that you use two handed, holding the pistol grip & trigger on one side and the short length of pipe threaded into the drill body casting on the other; I agree it'd be a chore using an effete plastic bodied hobbyist's power drill.
Taking her out in 1/8" increments should work OK.
At least you get to kneel at the side of the bike as it sits upright rather than laying the bike on it's side to get access for a Sawzall blade.

Bigfeet · May 19, 2016

gggGary said:
The problem is the bolt is rusted inside the pivot shaft which.... wait for it.....
is free to turn in the swing arm bushings. So turning the bolt doesn't get you much.

This thread is reminding me of what a "Personal growth experience" mine was. It's also reminding me to pull out the grease gun.lol

DrewMartin · May 19, 2016

Not that my comment is of any value. Jesus, I finally looked at the microfische. Fred and Gary, y'all are (obviously) right. If those really are rusted together it's going to be a real challenge.

But hey, if we're renting tools why not a mag drill and some annular cutters?
I have one of these at work and love it, it's almost a portable mill. I'd feel way comfortable hitting center of the bolt, squarely. I think you could use the swingarm mounts for a decent mag spot.

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gggGary · May 20, 2016

Drool, mmm tools!

nb1914 · May 20, 2016

progress, i have managed to get it half inch out and can now turn the full bolt with my hand, but yes i can see the sleeves turning also. But i can now move the swing arm 2mm side to side ……perfect for a hacksaw blade, the bolt is knackered now anyway as the threaded end is bent slightly, so i will be looking for that 16mm suzuki bolt.

nb1914 · May 20, 2016

Is it a 16mm x 260mm suzuki bolt ???

fredintoon · May 21, 2016

nb1914 said:
Is it a 16mm x 260mm suzuki bolt ???

Hi nb1914,
that was a long time ago and as I remember it the bolt came from a 1980 or earlier Suzuki GS1000.
Best you measure your frame to determine the needed bolt length.
But that was then.
These days you can get the complete salvage package you are going to need (Upgraded throughbolt, bearing sleeve, bronze bushings, end seals) from MikesXS or as you are in the UK, from Heiden Tuning in Holland.
Mikes and Heiden seem to share the same catalog.
And while the swingarm is out, drill & tap it for a grease nipple.
If you look at the tortuous route that Yamaha makes the grease take, from the throughbolt grease nipples through two cross-drilled holes into the gap between the throughbolt and the bearing sleeve and then through another two cross-drilled holes into the bearings, makes you wonder how any of it got to where it needed to be.

nb1914 · May 23, 2016

Yip i will be making sure the new one is well greased, well the damn thing is out had to hacksaw either side of swing arm. Cut through sleeve and bolt, then the remainder in the swing arm came out very easily, but the bolt is effectively welded in the sleeve !!. And very easy with a junior hacksaw to cut through.

gggGary · May 23, 2016

:grin:

fredintoon · May 23, 2016

nb1914 said:
Yip i will be making sure the new one is well greased, well the damn thing is out had to hacksaw either side of swing arm. Cut through sleeve and bolt, then the remainder in the swing arm came out very easily, but the bolt is effectively welded in the sleeve !!. And very easy with a junior hacksaw to cut through.

Hi nb1914,
Me, I'd have used a metal-cutting blade in a Sawzall.
Seems to me that someone who describes making two cuts through a 16mm bolt with a junior hacksaw as being "very easy" coulda pushed that bolt out with his thumbs.

nb1914 · May 23, 2016

i have no thumbs left after all that hammering, should have just cut it day 1, lesson learnt. now onto getting the left fork bottom bracket stud out that sheared off :bang head:

i see that suppliers have also recognised that a 16mm bolt all the way is needed, so its onto some buying

fredintoon · May 24, 2016

nb1914 said:
i have no thumbs left after all that hammering, - - -

Hi nb1914,
I was using "thumbs" as a euphemism.
The body part I meant is not one I'd mention on a site that kids can read.
Try a backwards-drill to remove that broken fork stud.

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