XS650.com Software Update

You can use google to search the site by adding site:www.xs650.com before your search on google. Like this: site:www.xs650.com oil
I don't have a google search console on the site yet.

The search on the site is much much better than on the old site, but you have to remember that the search bar at the top of the page is dynamic. It functions slightly different depending on what section of the site you're on. For example if you're in thread or forum, "Search this forum only" is checked by default. To search all forums, uncheck that box, or click Home before entering your search. You basically just need to remember that if you're in one forum like The Garage, the quick search will only search in The Garage because the "Search this forum only" is checked by default.

I tried to have a conversation with leo. How do you send it?

Click Inbox > Conversations > Start a New Conversation
that will bring you here: http://www.xs650.com/conversations/add

Enter who you want to start a (private) conversation with in the participants box, enter a title (subject), your message, then click the Start a Conversation button.

How to change the USER TITLE now? Can't get it done and Search doesn't help.

Really like everything about the new layout and functions.

Scott

Click your name up on the right side of the navigation bar. Then click Personal Details, then edit the Custom Title field (under your avatar). Here's a link to the page: http://www.xs650.com/account/personal-details

Travis said:

Click your name up on the right side of the navigation bar. Then click Personal Details, then edit the Custom Title field (under your avatar). Here's a link to the page: http://www.xs650.com/account/personal-details

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Deja vu, this happened to me on another forum also. At Personal Details there is my avatar, then my date of birth, no Custom Title.
Scott

Hi Travis,
seems this system has an automatic spell-checker. That's usually helpful unless you are
The first mate of a lugger, A lascivious bugger, The sort that spells cunt with a K.
Apart from that, the damn thing changes rephase into rephrase and puts a wiggly red line under it if you notice and change it back.
Same deal with ether, changes that word to either, is there a way to smarten it up?

mrtwowheel said:

Deja vu, this happened to me on another forum also. At Personal Details there is my avatar, then my date of birth, no Custom Title.
Scott

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Try it now. It looks like xenforo defaults to not allowing registered users to change their title. I've changed the setting so you should be able to change it. Thanks for bringing up the issue!

fredintoon said:

Hi Travis,
seems this system has an automatic spell-checker. That's usually helpful unless you are
The first mate of a lugger, A lascivious bugger, The sort that spells cunt with a K.
Apart from that, the damn thing changes rephase into rephrase and puts a wiggly red line under it if you notice and change it back.
Same deal with ether, changes that word to either, is there a way to smarten it up?

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As far as I know there is no spell checker or auto-correct built into xenforo. That's all your browser or phone. What browser are you using? Usually you can right click a text area and turn off the spell checker or change your spell check ad auto-correct options in your browser settings.

Travis,

It has been bought to my attention, (and after have a good look and research) i have found that any information associated to a pic in the albums has now become a heading and if the information was extensive, it has now been cut off after a certain mount of words or length.

I had also hosted pics, with their relevant information relating to that certain model, from my album into the ID thread. In doing this it meant any person wanting to see or learn about a model could have access to the information in the album by running the courser over the pic in the thread. Now since the changeover to this new platform all that information has been lost and anyone looking at the ID thread cannot get that information from that thread.

This has also affected my tutorial on the Gauge sight glass removal.

Could you look into this and let me know if it can be fixed.

That "running the cursor over a pic" sounds really cool. Unfortunately, on a tablet, I never got to see that.

Here's an example of what 650Skull's talking about. My carb rebuild album had titles and exhaustive descriptions for most pics. The Xenforo upgrade converted all that text into a super-huge title, truncating most of it.



Here's a before and after, where I was able to retitle an album pic, and put the informative text into the separate description box.





What I hadn't been able to discern, is if these kinds of changes would break any links in various threads, so I've been holding off on any album changes for fear of thread damage...

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It has been bought to my attention, (and after have a good look and research) i have found that any information associated to a pic in the albums has now become a heading and if the information was extensive, it has now been cut off after a certain mount of words or length.

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You're correct. The old album pictures only allowed for a description. The new album pictures require a title, and allow a description. The default character limit for image titles is 150 characters. That can be changed. I ran a query on the old database and approx 2% of the album pictures have descriptions longer than that. I'm still working on figuring out the best way to handle this.

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I had also hosted pics, with their relevant information relating to that certain model, from my album into the ID thread. In doing this it meant any person wanting to see or learn about a model could have access to the information in the album by running the courser over the pic in the thread. Now since the changeover to this new platform all that information has been lost and anyone looking at the ID thread cannot get that information from that thread.

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I can still view the old forum and I could not reproduce this with a couple of different browsers. In a thread where an album picture was posted, I could not see the description when hovering over the image. That would mean the description was pulled in for the alt text for the image. That may have happened in the gallery, but not in threads. Perhaps that info was cached in your browser from looking at it in an album and then later in a thread? Also, like TwoManyXS1Bs mentioned, that doesn't help users on tablets and smart phones. In a thread with pictures, it would be best to include any relevant info under the picture. Lastly, as we are seeing, albums don't make for good how to articles. Perhaps you could make gauge sight glass removal how to as a thread with images and descriptions. I could get you the old long descriptions pretty easily. I may find a way to import them anyway.

For all of the old album pictures, if the description is longer than 150 characters, I might be able to import the long description to the new description field and leave the truncated description as the title.. It's a bummer that they imported that way, but that was a decision the developer of the import script chose. The only other option I could see working is using the album title for the image titles (since they are required), so the description can remain the description. The Gallery doesn't show the description when viewing images in the lightbox though. And that's the easiest way to scroll through images.

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...as we are seeing, albums don't make for good how to articles.

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True. On the old forum, they seemed to have some nice features. 1- A single/findable location for relevant future postings. 2- Hosted on XS650.com. 3- Able to portray a tutorial without distracting discussions. 4- Ability to view 1 pic at a time, without net-clobbering numerous pic downloads per thread page.

To fix the current albums, I had thought about asking if you could simply extract and email me just the description blocks. Then, I could use that to rebuild my albums, and/or to create how-to threads.

Of your possible two options:

Travis said:

I might be able to import the long description to the new description field and leave the truncated description as the title..

using the album title for the image titles (since they are required), so the description can remain the description.

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I think I like your first option best. All I would need to later do is trim the title.

The second option is also fine. The important info would be in the description field.
Depending on the album, retitling may not be necessary, and they could remain as-is.

Big issue is to avoid breaking links where the album pics are used in unknown threads...

I don't think i am wrong, not saying a ain't either. I have a lap top and i remember some text cumming up on the pic when i ran my mouse over the pic in the thread, not the whole lot, just a few words, and if one was to click on that pic it took you to the album pic. The reason for not involving all the written content under each pic in the ID Thread, was to keep it as condensed as possible and with one click you were at the source of that info. Under the old format there was a space for a description on each photo posted in he album so i saw, and used it for communication and information.

Not making a big deal out of it, but the time it took to set up the album and written description, it isn't something i want to have to do again. With the ID thread being locked, and not being able to click on the pic then taken to the source album, via another tab so 2 pages were open, with the written information on the model it has diminished the value of the thread. as i see it.

I won't be using tablets or phones to access the web in the foreseeable future, or ever until there is absolutely no other way to do it. I guess i will be a dinosaur and sites, forums and such are forcing that change so i will be left behind. Xenforo is, as is other forum manufacturers, trying to link them selves to all other social media in the belief it is easier for our own good.

Question.............does the owner of their pictures still retain copyright over their pics posted on this site.

650Skull said:

Question.............does the owner of their pictures still retain copyright over their pics posted on this site.

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Yes. From: http://www.xs650.com/help/terms

You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, irrevocable, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service. You retain copyright over the Content.

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I didn't write that. It's generic to the software, but still applies.

I retain my copy right..............but................in saying; You are granting us with non-exclusive, ( meaning other parties have access and can use), permanent, (forever), irrevocable, (can never be changed back........Challenged?), unlimited license, (i hand over my rights), to use or republish your content, (advertising, advancing or commercial gain) in connection with this service.
These terms may be changed at any time without notice.................. Means i agree to every thing in the sites statement above, but my agreement is null and void whenever you decide, and can be done without notice, this would include any copy right.

I understand this is a generic practice, but to say copy right is retained is wrong, copy right has been given to this site and any connection with this service would include third party cookies or a site that has me as logged on, through a said third party cookie. In effect you don't have retain control of my copy right for this service only.

Just saying and i this is not a personal attack on you Travis, you are also bound by the sites manufacturers

Nothing has changed with how I use content in the last 7 years the site has been around.

I'll ague these generic terms if you want, even though I'm not a lawyer.

Non-exclusive means you still have the right to use your content. If you gave us an exclusive license to you content, you could no longer use it or post the same content anywhere else. Non-exclusive works in your favor.

Permanent, irrevocable, and unlimited give rights to USE and publish the content for as long as the site is around. Once you post it, the site can use it. You still own the copyright and could sell your images and content in a manual or book or somewhere else. Let say a member got pissed off and decided to edit all of their posts... from my understanding I could reverse the edits, ban the user, and keep the content. If they tried to sue, I'm not sure what would happen. Hasn't happened yet.

I really don't know what you're talking about with third-party cookies in relation to copyrighted content.

Well, the multiple browser crashes on my tablet finally took it out. During the final part of a page load, the tablet froze, blacked out, and is now permanently dead.

So, I'll check in on my stupid phone occasionally. But won't be much help to folks now...

TwoManyXS1Bs said:

Well, the multiple browser crashes on my tablet finally took it out. During the final part of a page load, the tablet froze, blacked out, and is now permanently dead.

So, I'll check in on my stupid phone occasionally. But won't be much help to folks now...

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Might be a good time to look into getting a chromebook.