Yep, Marty is telling it like it is, but Society rally conduct wasn't always like that! John Chaves disciplined offenders with ridicule, and if that didn't work he applied the dutch rub till they confessed their errors, begged for mercy, and swore to clean up their act. Marty's technique was to walk offenders behind the woodshed to get their attention where there were no witnesses, so that he could explain the error of their ways. It took some doing, but thanks to the efforts of John and Marty, whining and contention are now completely absent from Society events, correction is no longer required, and the spirit of peace and brotherhood reigns. BTW 2M, why don't you take a break from your research work and join us in Arkansas? You'd have a fine time, I guarantee it!