When I moved from farm house to lake house, it took me just as long to move the garage as it did the rest of the house. I went from one huge garage/nice little barn, to one two car garage and one single car garage. Most of my tools, benches, cabinets went into the smaller garage. At first I put everything in there using the same layout that I had at the farm house, EXACTLY the same. Do this, you can make changes later, It's the only way it would have worked for me.

Scott
 
Bob, Good luck on the move. We just finished helping some friends move out of there house. Problem is the deal on the house they were planning on moving into fell through AFTER they had signed the papers on their house!:wtf::banghead:

Only good things are his mom has an upstairs they can use for now but nowhere enough room for even 1/4 of their stuff. The other sort of good thing is the place he works for has a 53 foot van trailer he can use for storage free of charge. Bad thing is they needed a place to "store" two cats and we got that honor!

Hope you move goes smooth and you can get back to the `72 project soon. If I was closer I'd offer to help you move.
 
Bad thing is they needed a place to "store" two cats and we got that honor!

Dangit Ken - I was just going to ask if you wanted to store two cats - permanently. They come with free litter boxes and food dishes.

Any takers?
 
Thanks guys, I appreciate the well wishes. I am busy packing my garage as we speak. My XS2 is now packed and I’m getting started on tools. Scott , I am going to try and replicate my workbench / pegboard as faithfully as possible. So much to do.
I’ll keep you posted......
 
True....but also fun because you can make the OCD Workshop West - EVEN better than version v1 in Avondale.

I'd be looking at:
  • air conditioning (you DO live in a place that is much like the surface of the sun);
  • improved lighting (you're not getting any younger ol' buddy);
  • some amenities such as a BEvERages fridge, one of those snazzy LED light / bluetooth speaker combos and perhaps a big-@ss TV (for those loooong evenings of endless cleaning and polishing...);
  • some decent chair(s) (who knows, a friend or two might drop-by - maybe with their new young son, or perhaps even from a far-off foreign land.....);
  • etc., etc.
You've spent the big coin - now is the time to stretch a little further and really go for it! ;)
 
True....but also fun because you can make the OCD Workshop West - EVEN better than version v1 in Avondale.

I'd be looking at:
  • air conditioning (you DO live in a place that is much like the surface of the sun);
  • improved lighting (you're not getting any younger ol' buddy);
  • some amenities such as a BEvERages fridge, one of those snazzy LED light / bluetooth speaker combos and perhaps a big-@ss TV (for those loooong evenings of endless cleaning and polishing...);
  • some decent chair(s) (who knows, a friend or two might drop-by - maybe with their new young son, or perhaps even from a far-off foreign land.....);
  • etc., etc.
You've spent the big coin - now is the time to stretch a little further and really go for it! ;)

Pete, I like the way you think! You don’t have to sell me on all that stuff......think you could swing by and convince my wife? Maybe a little something like this?
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think you could swing by and convince my wife? Maybe a little something like this?

Sure Bob - I’ll swing by right after Dude suggests the Kitchen Engine Rebuilding Shop idea to her.....:yikes:

Then we can retreat to my place until things calm down....:D
 
Well!! AFTER ONLY 60 days out of commission,
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Before I was SO rudely interrupted, I was in a hurry to get my engine ready to move, so things were not really buttoned up, I just threw covers back on and called it good to go. The advance rod, points, oil filters, cam chain adjuster, misc gaskets are all yet to be installed.

Today I finally had some free time and got started again , YAY! I pulled off my compression release/ exhaust valve cover to replace the seal in there.
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Out with the old,
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And press the new seal into place.
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Then reassemble the decompression assembly.
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And for now, I’m just going to put it back in place without the gasket. I still need to adjust the valves.
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From there, I moved on to the cam chain adjuster. I had considered polishing this, but decided to paint it like the case.
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New gasket with a thin schmear of Hylomar,
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A drop of blue locktight on the threads
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Install the cam chain adjuster,
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A new cork gasket, and it’s all together.
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I measure progress by empty containers, so two down!
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Now I’m interested in some opinions here, just curious what you guys think. I still need to install the gaskets and o rings behind the cam seal covers. The cam seals seem to cause a lot of guys trouble, the seals just barely have enough room to cover the end of the camshaft. Now there is a gasket and an oring behind the cover.
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And the oring fits into this machined recess in the head.
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So I’m thinking that the oring will flatten out in that machined space and won’t add too much to the thickness.
What I’m wondering is, I’ve heard of some guys with chronically leaking seals, remove the gasket and just put some gasket sealer behind the housing.
How common is that for those seals to leak, what have some of you done to try and fix it, and is it advisable to leave either the oring or gaskets out? Just curious. Thanks!
See you again soon, I’m Back!
Bob
 
Honestly, I've never understood Yamaha's logic in using a gasket and O-ring both on those end caps. My opinion, it wouldn't hurt a thing to just go with the O-rings. I do know from measuring my XS1 engine, that without the gaskets, there will be no discernible clearance across the cam and bearings. In other words, that's as far in as the end caps will go. Best chance ya got for the garlock seals not leakin....
Also, didn't see any blue locktite on the decompress shaft bolt. I'd suggest some. Don't want that thing rattling around inside the rocker box. :yikes:
 
Honestly, I've never understood Yamaha's logic in using a gasket and O-ring both on those end caps. My opinion, it wouldn't hurt a thing to just go with the O-rings. I do know from measuring my XS1 engine, that without the gaskets, there will be no discernible clearance across the cam and bearings. In other words, that's as far in as the end caps will go. Best chance ya got for the garlock seals not leakin....
Also, didn't see any blue locktite on the decompress shaft bolt. I'd suggest some. Don't want that thing rattling around inside the rocker box. :yikes:

Haha! I just didn’t photograph it, I put locktight on the set bolt threads.

So you’re saying you wouldn’t have any qualms using just the orings and leaving out the gaskets?
 
So you’re saying you wouldn’t have any qualms using just the orings and leaving out the gaskets?
Correct. The three screw holes to attach the cap don't go all the way through to the inside of the head... so there's really no need for the gasket. Just the O-ring should work just fine.
 
He can pipe in here and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Robin eventually went without the gaskets.... Robin?
 
Oh... and make sure the head fasteners are just lightly snugged. They need to be loose so the caps can move the cam bearings to center them. Otherwise the caps won't draw up flush.
 
Oh... and make sure the head fasteners are just lightly snugged. They need to be loose so the caps can move the cam bearings to center them. Otherwise the caps won't draw up flush.

Thanks,
Before I put my engine into hibernation, I installed the caps and valve covers, made sure everything was located in place and lightly snugged, then torqued the head down to about two thirds of its eventual value just to seal the rocker cover and center the bearings.
I intend to finish torqueing the head after the motor is installed.
 
Hi Mailman... very nice...

Curious about the compression lever assembly... is the only difference the cover/lever assembly, or does it require a specific rocker arm (or head perhaps) in order to function?
 
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