Boyer and Pamco Ignition

I honestly don’t think you will have an issue getting the unit. Lord willing it will work properly and you will be happily riding for years to come. Just pray you don’t have any issues lol.
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No dog on this fight..........

I made up this thread to help out new and older members to install and trouble shoot Pamco ignitions. There were so many new threads about pamco's the answers were lost in the archives and a lot of good information was posted in ongoing non Pamco threads. Would never be found in a Pamco search.

I made this thread for the site........

Nothing against boyer and in all honesty have not had anything to do with them.............That being said i have also researched the Boyer ignition system and from what i have read from on here, 650 garage, and the boyer site and a couple of other links. The boyer does have problems relating to plate warping and electrical box issues when the electrical system doesn't produce enough charge. This can be a problem on the XS650 and the problem is the bike will just stop on you. What happens is the igniter box needs to be reset.

Because the XS650 does have issues with holding a steady current the Boyer Micro ignition system has not been recommended for XS650's by some people. This issue can be solved with good maintenance and up keep of the electrical system and a good solid battery.
 
Amazing. Pete you can respond to someone ordering from you, but you can't help people that have bought from you.

well if I was a cynical person I'd say ....well theres no money in product support ;)

My guess is that there is so much daily correspondence regarding installation and running issues that there is not enough time in the day to address them all.
Whatever the reason its clear that a pamco is not the sensible choice if you value reasonable product support and its not like customers are not paying it for at those prices !

Incidentally ..............Warping Boyer Plates :laugh2: really !?

I've only read of one user that claims that.

From close inspection of a Boyer stator plate its clear that it couldn't possibly warp sufficiently to cause any operational issues as the plates are too well supported .

Any contact between the electrical contacts on the underside of the stator plate and the rotor could only be caused by either
insufficient clearance on installation or
the rotor becoming loose on the threaded bar or
the locknut loosening .
 
@650Skull sorry, i didn’t mean to hijack and Boyer your thread. Iam glad you made the thread it did help me out tremendously in diagnosing my issue.

All good. It's a thread and it goes where the posts take it............The reason i posted was to post real information regarding Boyers.............nothing is fallible.
 
@peanut.

Yes a warping Boyer plate and this will happen to XS650 installations if certain steps are not taken...............Actually you posted and had a discussion and added a link in that thread where this problem was posted by a respected member and his solution on how he fixed it. That link in the thread shows how this happens and a solution when installing the plate on how to stop it from happening..............Go back and do some rereading if you can get past your bias about Boyers
 
@peanut.

Yes a warping Boyer plate and this will happen to XS650 installations if certain steps are not taken............

what 'certain steps' would that be then ?

I have no bias for Boyers .......other than that they are far more reliable, cheaper and have considerably better support than any other electronic ignition system on the market.Thats not bias that is fact .
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what 'certain steps' would that be then ?

I have no bias for Boyers .......other than that they are far more reliable, cheaper and have considerably better support than any other electronic ignition system on the market.Thats not bias that is fact .

As for this nonsense about warping stator plates you're talking out your ass as usual. you know absolutely nothing about Boyer ignition systems as you have publicly acknowledged . you've never used one nor probably even seen one . Stick to something that you know something about
Oh and talking about bias................... you wouldn't be biased against the Brits by any chance would you :laugh2:
 
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I have an ‘81.

It needs to live again

So everything. TCI is shot

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Peanut, warping doesn't happen with great frequency; I've only seen it once. But the timing plate shown warped enough for the rotor to contact the solder pads, and no, the rotor was not loose or improperly installed. The first Boyer ignition that I installed, back in the early 1990's, gave trouble free service for several years until the bike was destroyed in a crash. But the Boyer plate is not well supported in the timing housing,: a substantial part of the edge is left hanging in the breeze, the material could be more robust, and the photos above speak for themselves as to what can occur. Please internalize this: You do not learn it all from a single experience.
 
Peanut, warping doesn't happen with great frequency; I've only seen it once. But the timing plate shown warped enough for the rotor to contact the solder pads, and no, the rotor was not loose or improperly installed. The first Boyer ignition that I installed, back in the early 1990's, gave trouble free service for several years until the bike was destroyed in a crash. But the Boyer plate is not well supported in the timing housing,: a substantial part of the edge is left hanging in the breeze, the material could be more robust, and the photos above speak for themselves as to what can occur. Please internalize this: You do not learn it all from a single experience.

thanks for posting ......I stand corrected .;) I certainly can't deny visible evidence .

My feeling is that the engine was running probably exceptionally hot and almost certainly outside the Boyer design and running parameters . My guess is that any pcb ignition plate from any manufacturer would probably have warped but nevertheless I can see that the pcb has indeed warped .

I agree the pcb plate could certainly stand some improvement , not least of which is to have the damn text on the outside lol ?
The Company is typical of an old established family concern where the proprietor cannot, or will not move with the times. Every aspect of the Company looks like it is in a 70s timewarp

The website is abysmal ,as is their installation sheets , marketing, branding, packaging etc and the online website is one of the worst I've seen but it cannot be denied that the Boyer Bransden ignition system is second to none in terms of reliability, value for money and performance and has been since its inception. ;)
 
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