A nice, used centerstand should be easy enough to come by around here, what with all the chopping going on. Check the "Classifieds" section, maybe even put a "Wanted" post in there. I think the centerstands on these are very nice. I like the pivot tubes, so much better than just a narrow pinched flat tube. But, you have to keep them lubed. They work very well like that, but they also bind up very well if not lubed.