Union Pacific 4014

On Lk Superior, by Duluth.

Well it finally got here. What a magnificent piece of RR history. Shitburg (Topeka) did not deserve this but I`m glad it made a stop for display at the UP station. It will spend the night at the UP yards then on to Manhattan Ks in the morning. I hope they have plenty of armed guards because if they don`t the "Scrappers" will have this thing stripped by tomorrow and it`ll be sitting in the UP yards on blocks. Great Stuff!!

4014 pulling 4141 past Kyle Field at Texas A&M.

halfmile said:

Well it finally got here. What a magnificent piece of RR history. Shitburg (Topeka) did not deserve this but I`m glad it made a stop for display at the UP station. It will spend the night at the UP yards then on to Manhattan Ks in the morning. I hope they have plenty of armed guards because if they don`t the "Scrappers" will have this thing stripped by tomorrow and it`ll be sitting in the UP yards on blocks. Great Stuff!!
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will have this thing stripped by tomorrow and it`ll be sitting in the UP yards on blocks
LOL
Is it that bad in Shitburg?

Team Junk said:

4014 pulling 4141 past Kyle Field at Texas A&M.

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Grossly inefficient, hugely maintenance intensive, monstrously polluting - mechanical engineers love steam engines anyway!

aldo5468 said:

Grossly inefficient, hugely maintenance intensive, monstrously polluting - mechanical engineers love steam engines!

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So did a guy named P.W.Dillon. He basically owned Northwestern Steel and Wire which was located a few miles from where I grew up.

'Steel rails still ain't heard the news'
Northwestern Steel used steam locomotives to move scrap metal to the furnaces and to transfer hot ingots to the rolling machines, long after the era of steam engines was bygone in the broader culture. The company usually bought second hand switchers from railroads such as the Illinois Central. The engines used in the mill weren't graceful or agile, like many of those that once pulled passenger trains. They were unseemly and barely capable of moving 40 mph.

In 1960 15 steam locomotives came in from the Grand Trunk Western Railroad. NWSW, seeing that a few were in good shape, decided not to scrap them all but rather use them in the scrap yard. Estimates stated that the engines would go through one ton of coal for each hour in the day and use up 48,000 gallons of water during the same time period.

Northwestern Steel's steam engines were among the last to operate in the United States. Old No. 73, as it was known, (a 1929 Baldwin locomotive) was the final steam engine to be used in America. NWSW last used the locomotive on Dec. 3, 1980 at 10 a.m. Its final run was made coupled to the technology that replaced it, a diesel engine. On Jan. 19, 1981, No. 73 was moved to the south lawn of the Paul W. Dillon Home. From tracks inside the steel mill complex, the locomotive was taken east along the Geneva Subdivision main line of the Chicago & North Western Railroad a mile and a half to a location which passes just behind the Dillon home. 73 was then lifted via four cranes and moved the last 75 yards to its final resting place as a memorial to Dillon, the man who kept the idea of steam engines alive for more than twenty years.

gggGary,
Your post (#17) said the 4014 was converted to #2 fuel oil. I'm surprised (or is that relieved?) nobody ever had the bright idea to build an atomic locomotive. Aircraft carriers and submarines use reactors to make steam for propulsion, why not a train? Maybe they thought they'd be more subject to wrecks (and melt-downs!)?

Wouldn't be surprised to find a Russian Nuclear locomotive. But a quick search sez no.

halfmile said:

Well it finally got here. What a magnificent piece of RR history. Shitburg (Topeka) did not deserve this but I`m glad it made a stop for display at the UP station. It will spend the night at the UP yards then on to Manhattan Ks in the morning. I hope they have plenty of armed guards because if they don`t the "Scrappers" will have this thing stripped by tomorrow and it`ll be sitting in the UP yards on blocks. Great Stuff!!
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In 1962 we took a train ride cross country from Ridgewood, NJ to Binghamton, NY, connected on another train to Chicago, then got on the El Capitan, (like the Santa Fe Superchief) to LA. I'll never forget the massive rail yards in Chicago, Filled with steam locomotives, hundreds of them in mothballs, waiting to be scrapped as the age of steam had passed. It was surreal for a kid with a Lionel train set. I wish I had a picture...

Goldenboy said:

In 1962 we took a train ride cross country from Ridgewood, NJ to Binghamton, NY, connected on another train to Chicago, then got on the El Capitan, (like the Santa Fe Superchief) to LA. I'll never forget the massive rail yards in Chicago, Filled with steam locomotives, hundreds of them in mothballs, waiting to be scrapped as the age of steam had passed. It was surreal for a kid with a Lionel train set. I wish I had a picture...

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Many times I have wished I had taken pictures of people, places and things over the years. One thing I'm often wondering about is say 50 years from now what will have happened to the hundreds of pictures people are taking these days on cell phones. Are they going to get lost when there is a new system that makes the current formats obsolete?

Way back when I got my first digital camera there was a online photo storing site that I uploaded many pictures to as memory cards and hard drive were nowhere as big as now days. Well that site went offline and I lost several pictures that I did not have backed up on floppy disks and even if I had them on floppys not sure I could find a machine to view them on these days!

It's like back in the 60's' what to do With the elder's photos? Books were big and numerous. Who had the negatives? Where and how to store them..The never ending problem.

kshansen said:

Many times I have wished I had taken pictures of people, places and things over the years. One thing I'm often wondering about is say 50 years from now what will have happened to the hundreds of pictures people are taking these days on cell phones. Are they going to get lost when there is a new system that makes the current formats obsolete?

Way back when I got my first digital camera there was a online photo storing site that I uploaded many pictures to as memory cards and hard drive were nowhere as big as now days. Well that site went offline and I lost several pictures that I did not have backed up on floppy disks and even if I had them on floppys not sure I could find a machine to view them on these days!

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I just picked up my new laptop, yesterday, an HP 360 Envy. I had to purchase an external hard drive to back up my stored info and pictures in the event that my laptop takes a surge and fries, or gets a virus that wipes out the data. My Asus is 8 years old with an early Pentium processor, unable to process Windows 10. Windows 7 will no longer be serviceable after January, no longer updated or protected and all your sensitive info can be hacked. I considered what you mentioned. As long as you continue to move the data from one device to the next in a timely manner and heed pop up warnings, you can preserve your records. If you don't, then it will vanish. That includes the compatibility of storage devices such as flash drives and hard drives.

kshansen said:

Many times I have wished I had taken pictures of people, places and things over the years. One thing I'm often wondering about is say 50 years from now what will have happened to the hundreds of pictures people are taking these days on cell phones. Are they going to get lost when there is a new system that makes the current formats obsolete?

Way back when I got my first digital camera there was a online photo storing site that I uploaded many pictures to as memory cards and hard drive were nowhere as big as now days. Well that site went offline and I lost several pictures that I did not have backed up on floppy disks and even if I had them on floppys not sure I could find a machine to view them on these days!

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Since getting new smart phones I have taken 1000's of pictures looked at them may once or twice put them on an external hardrive to "save" and might never look at them again or print them
When you had to pay to print ya took a few and would drag them out for others to see once and a while in fact last night a buddy just showed me photos he had from 30 years ago which meant I had to drag out a bunch of mine from that time era
I just take a lot fewer pictures and just enjoy what's in front of me instead
Old school !

The camera I`ve been using is a Nikon Coolpix. Cheap and simple. In Aug I had it in my back pocket, sat down and broke the screen. Now it`s point and shoot. All the pics I took for the calendar and of the 4014 were just pointed in the general direction and hope for the best. No idea what the settings are or how much battery is left or anything. The camera still takes a good pic, you just can`t see what your taking a picture of?? Maybe Santa will come through with a new one.

Years ago, during the Analog Age, I had a Nikon (EM) 35mm SLR. Boy did I ever put the miles on that camera! People remarked, all the time, about how my pictures looked like postcards. You can't beat great optics. (A steady hand doesn't hurt either!) No preview there either. A zillion pictures. And, occasionally, a "photograph"!

Goldenboy said:

As long as you continue to move the data from one device to the next in a timely manner and heed pop up warnings, you can preserve your records. If you don't, then it will vanish. That includes the compatibility of storage devices such as flash drives and hard drives.

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That is what I was thinking about how many are downloading their pictures from phone to hard drive or DVD's?

And I just found out the other day that the USB CompactFlash reader I have will not work now that I "updated" my computer to Windoz 10! I even contacted the manufacture and they said have to buy new reader! Only good thing is I don't use that old camera much and if I do my printer has a slot that will accept and read those card.

Actually let my 5 year old grandson play with that camera when he's here so no can't afford to loose pictures on it so far!

Greyandridin said:

Since getting new smart phones I have taken 1000's of pictures looked at them may once or twice put them on an external hardrive to "save" and might never look at them again or print them
When you had to pay to print ya took a few and would drag them out for others to see once and a while in fact last night a buddy just showed me photos he had from 30 years ago which meant I had to drag out a bunch of mine from that time era
I just take a lot fewer pictures and just enjoy what's in front of me instead
Old school !

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I was an x-ray tech and worked for a studio photographer. Back in film days, every shot had to count. Now you can shoot like a machine gun, which is more effective than a pistol. If you want a good shot, the new phones have a cine' mode which takes a 2 second rapid fire succession of shots which you can review and select the best of several shots to keep. Wedding photographers must take 5 shots for a group of people as someone invariably blinks, yawns or turns away. It is a much better system. Coincidently, tonight, I just spent the last 2 hours sorting through old photos from a 30 year collection which have curled up, faded, turned red and are unlabled and disorganized. Now Google automatically creates albums. Say "landscape" or "people" or "places" and those groups will automatically be displayed in good condition. It even records and labels dates and places as generic labels for albums which you can alter, yourself, to help identify and retrieve them. I just learned all this from unsolicited pop up tutorials on Microsoft Libraries and Google Photos, compliments of windows 10. When I take a photo with my moto G-7, an inexpensive phone with good features, it automatically goes to Google photos on my laptop after I gave Google permission to link them. When Marlon came over I don't think I convinced him he sold his "66 Honda Scrambler to my brother. I just texted him a photo of my brother on the Scrambler from 1972. Remember the song," Kodachrome" by Simon and Garfunkle? Now, it's Google Chrome.

The lifespan of card readers seems to be very short anyway. I go through several a year. Gave up buying expensive ones as they die just as quickly. Of course working for a paper I shoot more in a week than most people do in a year.

kshansen said:

That is what I was thinking about how many are downloading their pictures from phone to hard drive or DVD's?

And I just found out the other day that the USB CompactFlash reader I have will not work now that I "updated" my computer to Windoz 10! I even contacted the manufacture and they said have to buy new reader! Only good thing is I don't use that old camera much and if I do my printer has a slot that will accept and read those card.

Actually let my 5 year old grandson play with that camera when he's here so no can't afford to loose pictures on it so far!

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Now, most new laptops no longer have disc slots, but not to worry. They have external plug in disc players you can buy, which are handy for many reasons.

The 4014 Big Boy came back to Topeka (shitburg) today. Always good to see a "Real Train" in action.