XS2 front wheel respoking

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Hi

I’m trying to respoke the front wheel on my XS2 with new stainless spokes from Heiden tuning

Each time I try, I start off by fitting the inner spokes on both sides, fit the outer spokes on one side but when I go to fit the last set of outer spokes, it looks like I have to put the under tension or even bend them slightly to get them to fit?

I spoke to Heiden tuning and they thought that they had a bad batch of spokes and fair play, sent me a replacement set but still the same?

Surely that can’t be right can it?

HELP!

Ant
 
Haven't had to do that on a front wheel but doing a TX750 rear I did have to add some bend but that hub is REALLY close to the rim.
Threading the nipples in only a turn or two till they are all started? Compare lengths and bends with the originals?
 
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I have an XS2 wheel front wheel that did the same thing.
Sending you a PM.

I don't think anything can be done about it. I think it results from a combination of the stiffness of the stainless spokes and the geometry of the rim holes. It doesn't make really sense, but there it is.
 
Here's a pic. The problem is at the rim.
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I respoked my XS2 with stainless spokes from Mikes with no problems. Might have just got lucky as it was the first time I had ever respoked a wheel.
 
Mine was respoked by the previous owner, so I don't know where the spokes came from. But it really shouldn't make any difference. You can see the square spoke nipples pointing in the wrong direction in my pic. That's why it doesn't make sense. It would be one thing if the spokes were bent wrong at the hub. But at the nipples the spokes are straight. It's like the angles of the rim holes are wrong. Mysterious.
 
I may be home this weekend. If so I'll take a good look at my rim and spokes.
 
Gary, you are right, the XS2 rim (94418-19059-00) is different from the XS1 rim (94418-19049). It would make sense if my rim was from an XS1 -- my nipples are pointing to where the outer edge of a larger diameter (XS1) hub would be.

However, my rim markings do not jibe with XS1 rim markings:
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 2H201 (my rim with bentish nipples in the pic)
I am currently sitting on FOUR XS1 wheels (not sure how that's even possible). Anyways, they are:
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 W IA Y
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 W OK Y
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 W OL Y
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 W IE 201
That last number throws a small kink into the sequence, but otherwise, the XS1 rim markings follow a pattern that my bent-spoke rim does not fall into, implying that the bent-spoke rim is NOT from an XS1... But I could be wrong...
 
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Hi Ant, your problem is different from what I have described.
When all is finished, the hub should be pretty well centered side-to-side in relationship to the rim -- at least that's how mine is. I'd start all the rows really loose, just one or two threads like Gary suggested, completely lace it up, tighten the nipples, see what it looks like, and live with the result unless it looks really weird.
 
I hate to even mention this, and so far have no proof, but is it possible to install the rim backwards to the hub and mix up the holes for the innies with the holes for the outie spokes? :umm::shrug::doh:
 
Are you sure you have the right length spokes? Typically, the spoke length for a 19" rim and disc front hub is about 186mm. This is measured from the inside of the bent part on top to the end of the threads on the bottom. They do make special spoke rulers for this but you don't need one. Here's a 650 rear spoke (18" rim). They fall in the 148 to 150mm long range .....

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DogBunny said:
Gary, you are right, the XS2 rim (94418-19059-00) is different from the XS1 rim (94418-19049). It would make sense if my rim was from an XS1 -- my nipples are pointing to where the outer edge of a larger diameter (XS1) hub would be.

However, my rim markings do not jibe with XS1 rim markings:
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 2H201 (my rim with bentish nipples in the pic)
I am currently sitting on FOUR XS1 wheels (not sure how that's even possible). Anyways, they are:
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 W IA Y
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 W OK Y
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 W OL Y
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 W IE 201
That last number throws a small kink into the sequence, but otherwise, the XS1 rim markings follow a pattern that my bent-spoke rim does not fall into, implying that the bent-spoke rim is NOT from an XS1... But I could be wrong...
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Did some looking and my rim markings agree with your's
2-72 and the 73 are marked;
2B202
2J202
2A202

70'S, 71'S be like;
OE Y
OG Y
Markings seemed to be randomly on the left or right so the rims appear to be NOT aligned for innies and outies.
 
I just did a 900Z1 with Buchanan SS spokes and had the same issue with the front. Took a little effort to get the last spokes in. Never had the issue with steel. anyway the guy who owns the bike wanted to send the rim back to Buchanan for final tightening. The only comment from them was I did a good job truing. Maybe on issue with SS spokes. They seem a bit more ridgid.
 
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DogBunny said:
TAKASAGO 18.5BX19 2H201 (my rim with bentish nipples in the pic)
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DogBunny I think the your rim with the bentish spokes is not a XS2 rim. Yours ends with 201. I have 3 and all end with 202.
2A202, 2B202 and 2E202.
Gary's 3 rims also end with 202
gggGary said:
2-72 and the 73 are marked;
2B202
2J202
2A202
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