Norton7D,
Any luck yet? Have you removed those rubber coated anti squeal shims now?
Any luck yet? Have you removed those rubber coated anti squeal shims now?
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Where does your brake lever stop?
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Norton7d
XS650 Junkie
Nope, not yet....thats on the list for this weekend.
With the shims removed, will I need to reestablish the brake feel positioning, considering something taking up space has been removed?
Or does the system not require any adjustment?
With the shims removed, will I need to reestablish the brake feel positioning, considering something taking up space has been removed?
Or does the system not require any adjustment?
No adjustment required. Just remove the wheel, then the pads, then those pesky shims. After fitting everything back, a few pumps of the lever should move the pads into contact with the disc. Hopefully this will give you a firmer lever. If not, one potential problem has been eliminated anyway.
Norton7d
XS650 Junkie
Thanks Arctic... Will do, if no substantial improvement is noted, I have already drawn the concusion a new MC may be requires.
Looking for both applicable and aesthetically acceptable. Dont like the white reservoir is avoidable.suggestions?
Looking for both applicable and aesthetically acceptable. Dont like the white reservoir is avoidable.suggestions?
I use Brembo master cylinders on both my XS and my RD. And the first Ducati was purchased in 1995, the other one is a 1997 ST2. No issues at all with any master cylinders on any of them. 3 on each bike, all Brembo.
The Brembo coffin reservoir master is very light, compared to stock XS and RD items, and have (or can be fitted with) a brake light microswitch, allowing you to ditch that clunky stock switch and two piece line as well. Did I say I like Brembo? Only drawback is the mirror thread which is RH, not LH like oem Yamaha. Mirror adapters fix this, and are cheap. See the pic of my RD. Alternatively, clamps without mirror perch is also available for a cleaner look (standard on Ducati models with half or full fairing, SS, ST, etc)
The Brembo coffin reservoir master is very light, compared to stock XS and RD items, and have (or can be fitted with) a brake light microswitch, allowing you to ditch that clunky stock switch and two piece line as well. Did I say I like Brembo? Only drawback is the mirror thread which is RH, not LH like oem Yamaha. Mirror adapters fix this, and are cheap. See the pic of my RD. Alternatively, clamps without mirror perch is also available for a cleaner look (standard on Ducati models with half or full fairing, SS, ST, etc)
Suggestion: Do not buy an ultra cheap new MC from China via Ebay. There are many reports of them failing. I tried one and the reservoir could not be opened to fill with fluid. One UK seller reported an 80% failure rate. Nothing wrong with buying secondhand Yamaha and other mainstream motorcycle manufacturers. You get a quality item. With the Brembo the right hand mirror thread gives you a greater choice of mirrors to buy.
Norton7d
XS650 Junkie
Not to complicate matters, but I just checked my front rotor, I have about 5 thou run out thus I know why I could have a pulsating feel when I hit the brakes, unless 5 thou is normal?
So now, turn or purchase new.... Considering I have a 2 piston caliber, I assume I need both sides turned?
So now, turn or purchase new.... Considering I have a 2 piston caliber, I assume I need both sides turned?
I think you'd need both sides turned even with a single piston caliper. A brake pad still rubs on both sides even though only one pad is "applied" with hydraulic force. That applied pad then pushes the other side of the disc into the other pad.
Norton7d
XS650 Junkie
I agree, hoping to stay with Yamaha MC, just dont know which one to try.
I prefer to pay for new, not in the mood to clean, paint, rebuild etc...
I prefer to pay for new, not in the mood to clean, paint, rebuild etc...
Norton7d
XS650 Junkie
OK, I need to buy Arctic a pint or two.
I removed my shims, here are the results;
Brake lever has feel and nice function!
Brake does not pulsate when applied!!
OK, so what's left, hhhmmmmm, that might be it, am I actually done here?
I know, they are never done, there are just periods of acceptability between fixes and updates.
I removed my shims, here are the results;
Brake lever has feel and nice function!
Brake does not pulsate when applied!!
OK, so what's left, hhhmmmmm, that might be it, am I actually done here?
I know, they are never done, there are just periods of acceptability between fixes and updates.
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Great! It seemed unlikely to me as well, when I was trying to bleed the brake on my RD for hours and hours. But those shims did it......
I have found that how far the lever travels is when you are pulling it.
When sitting still you can pull the lever close to the bars. When going down the road and you pull the lever you won't pull it as far. The brakes work differently when stopped as when moving.
So after getting your brakes operational how they feel when parked in your driveway doesn't really matter, it's how they feel when going down the road that matters.
On my 75 I can pull the lever almost back to the bars in the driveway but can almost do a stoppie with the lever pulled about half way.
The 83 is very similar. The Harley not so much, it weighs a bit more.
Leo
When sitting still you can pull the lever close to the bars. When going down the road and you pull the lever you won't pull it as far. The brakes work differently when stopped as when moving.
So after getting your brakes operational how they feel when parked in your driveway doesn't really matter, it's how they feel when going down the road that matters.
On my 75 I can pull the lever almost back to the bars in the driveway but can almost do a stoppie with the lever pulled about half way.
The 83 is very similar. The Harley not so much, it weighs a bit more.
Leo
Skip
XS 650 Screwturner
Norton7d....your bike is a beauty
Norton7d
XS650 Junkie
Thanks Skip, I realize I do have another task, I need to add the Yamaha emblem to the brake caliper....I assume a couple small drops of crazy glue?
never done
V. Good call by arcticXS and a very nice looking XS for Norton7d. Good part is it cost nothing to get sorted.
Norton7d
XS650 Junkie
Randy, u may be onto somethimg here....my arrow is also in the direction of your's but, the pattern is oppo direction?Norton, can you confirm the D404 rear tread direction ?
On my phone I see your tire?
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What the heck is going on ? Is that by chance a big fat D404 front tire ? The fronts are "backwards"
