I like the Segway and Yamaha! Wonder what the price sticker is on the Yamaha?
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I think that one's still more protype/test mule
Yamaha has been in the electric bicycle game a long time.
https://www.yamahabicycles.com/
From my admittedly limited e-bike time you want suspension where frost or lacking road budgets are an issue.
If I wasn't into the tinkering, I could get rid of all this garbage and buy a new Royal Enfield, or any number of new retro motorcycles. If I wasn't so into the nostalgia of these old bikes, I guess I'd just sit and play video games as the younger folks are prone to do. Not to mention the community these old bikes provide. I'm sure the E bike is a hoot to ride, but totally useless for me.
Electric.. smek-tric..... In time... either technology ... or Gov't edict well ban ..replace the gas engine. Then riders of the day will enjoy the them. Blah.. bland.... But they'll never know.. and more importantly understand.. the emotion that accompanies a air breathing... bellowing, vibrating machine. The feedback one feels at the handlebars... the machine speaks to the rider in a mechanical sense that the rider can understand... enjoys... appreciates. I'm sure the electric goes wicked fast... handles... and once they solve the range problem.... they'll become common place. I can't see myself standing at the local watering hole kick'n tires and..... discussing kilowatts.
Imagine the roar of the engines at the Indy 500! NASCAR! The bellowing of the engines at a tractor pull! Wait... it's a little pipsqueak whine, CUZ THEY'RE ELECTRIC !!! 
One of these days, it'll be reality.... 
One of these days, it'll be reality.... 
durgam_K
XS650 Addict
200 lbs..... WOW!!! My old KX125 weights more than that. Great for City blasting for sure...
I think these electric bikes will work well for intercity and comuter use. the noise and polution levels will be the factor as well as ease of parking.
Some Asian and Euroean countries you see a lot of small cc bikes and bicycles just for this purpose. These electric versions will replace a lot of these.
When I was working My commute was 20 miles each way. I thought of getting the parts and converting a small truck or a mini van to electric for witnter driving. One of these electric motorcycles would do the trick for summer.
The intial cost is a bit much but the savings in gas will pay for itself over a few years.
For other things a fuel powered vehicle is much better. Riding is one of them, towing the boat is another.
On the boats is where I have found that gas motors and electric motors both work well but for different purposes. The gas gets you out there quickly then the electric silently moves you around for the fishing. Simular things apply to land vehicles. fuel and electric both have a place.
Leo
Some Asian and Euroean countries you see a lot of small cc bikes and bicycles just for this purpose. These electric versions will replace a lot of these.
When I was working My commute was 20 miles each way. I thought of getting the parts and converting a small truck or a mini van to electric for witnter driving. One of these electric motorcycles would do the trick for summer.
The intial cost is a bit much but the savings in gas will pay for itself over a few years.
For other things a fuel powered vehicle is much better. Riding is one of them, towing the boat is another.
On the boats is where I have found that gas motors and electric motors both work well but for different purposes. The gas gets you out there quickly then the electric silently moves you around for the fishing. Simular things apply to land vehicles. fuel and electric both have a place.
Leo
If I could have figured out a simple and cheap way to control the speed of a DC electric motor I just might have built or converted my XS650 that I road to work. As my commute was about the shortest of anyone outside of some one who works from home range was not a factor. Including my driveway and the driveway at work round trip might have been 3 miles! I figured a top speed of 60 mph would be plenty as speed limit on highway is 55 mph! Good old lead acid batteries would last that long, just plug in batter tender every night.
1900: many people are lamenting the coming demise of the horse as a common means of transportation as the horseless carriage and those confounded motorcicles become more mainstream.
2021: many people are lamenting the coming demise of the internal combustion engine as a common means of transportation as the electric motor becomes more mainstream.
2121: many people are lamenting the coming demise of the electric motor as a common means of transportation as the anti-matter drive becomes more mainstream.
2221: many people are....... add infinitum...
2021: many people are lamenting the coming demise of the internal combustion engine as a common means of transportation as the electric motor becomes more mainstream.
2121: many people are lamenting the coming demise of the electric motor as a common means of transportation as the anti-matter drive becomes more mainstream.
2221: many people are....... add infinitum...
As I recall back in thise early years the electric car was used in racing. As well as in regular driving. They had much the same issues we have today. Batteries. Heavy and didn't last long enough.
I have read stories about drag racing electric gars. Mostly home built. They are very quick. The torque is at max pretty much from zero rpms up to max rpms. This high torque at low rpms gives excellent accelleration. The motors can be very compact for the output. I read of a Cooper Mini with 80 hp motors mounted in each wheel. That's 320 HP going into 4 wheels. This is straight from power to wheels, no loss through a transmission. This is one little car that can haul butt.
This approach would leave a lot more room inside the car for whatever goes inside. Very cool idea.
Leo
I have read stories about drag racing electric gars. Mostly home built. They are very quick. The torque is at max pretty much from zero rpms up to max rpms. This high torque at low rpms gives excellent accelleration. The motors can be very compact for the output. I read of a Cooper Mini with 80 hp motors mounted in each wheel. That's 320 HP going into 4 wheels. This is straight from power to wheels, no loss through a transmission. This is one little car that can haul butt.
This approach would leave a lot more room inside the car for whatever goes inside. Very cool idea.
Leo
Yes, but like all of the senior citizens before me, I’m not coming on board. Take my petroleum burner away and I call it quits.1900: many people are lamenting the coming demise of the horse as a common means of transportation as the horseless carriage and those confounded motorcicles become more mainstream.
2021: many people are lamenting the coming demise of the internal combustion engine as a common means of transportation as the electric motor becomes more mainstream.
2121: many people are lamenting the coming demise of the electric motor as a common means of transportation as the anti-matter drive becomes more mainstream.
2221: many people are....... add infinitum...
Both Toyota and Tesla are hot on the heels of yet another battery advance, lighter, cheaper, faster.
We're gaining on the tipping point to electric.
Anyone need a really good CRT monitor?
We're gaining on the tipping point to electric.
Anyone need a really good CRT monitor?
takehikes
XS650 Addict
I’ve ridden an e bike. You might change your tune.....super fun.
off road electric stealth and power does interest me
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Energy costs money. Whether in liquid form or electric.
How does cost per mile compare between electric vehicles and gas?
I realize it depends on whether it's a Tesla or the e-bike above.
You never see anything about the cost per mile to operate a e-vehical, especially in their advertisements.
How does cost per mile compare between electric vehicles and gas?
I realize it depends on whether it's a Tesla or the e-bike above.
You never see anything about the cost per mile to operate a e-vehical, especially in their advertisements.
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It's (artificially) cheap cuz the electric bill doesn't include highway taxes.
If you use solar or wind power it's got expensive infrastructure but low consumption cost.
It's also just cheap a figure bandied about in cars is 100 EMPG.
If you use solar or wind power it's got expensive infrastructure but low consumption cost.
It's also just cheap a figure bandied about in cars is 100 EMPG.
Anyone need a really good CRT monitor?
You find a taker and I have another to add to their collection!
That's because the cost of electricity varies so much from one locale to another - and also because highway maintenance costs are not reflected in electricity costs at present (but I'll betcha they will be soon).
In some places, it is so cheap that nobody talks about it while in other places, it is so expensive that everyone talks about it.
Something like fuel consumption is gallons/litres or fuel economy in miles per gallon or L/100 km is much easier to "translate" from one place to another.
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