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79 XS650 Hardtail build

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by topshelf333, Jan 16, 2016.

  1. fredintoon

    fredintoon Fred Hill, S'toon. Top Contributor

    Hi topshelf,
    combining a rider and a showpiece, eh?
    Thing is, prospective customers may be more impressed by gaudy than by elegant.
    As you say, you can easily re-do at least the sheetmetal parts, or even make swappable extra parts.
    With that in mind, do the frame in basic black because you don't want to be doing a full teardown to change the frame color and black goes with everything.
    With black tins to go riding plus extra tins in wild colors to impress the clients.
  2. Gene

    Gene House of Detention

    Great looking build. I caught a glimpse of it on instagram. Totally digging the Cole Foster tank
  3. topshelf333

    topshelf333 XS650 Enthusiast

    Yeah, thinking i will go black with a few layers of clear on the frame. Thanks for the input.
  4. topshelf333

    topshelf333 XS650 Enthusiast

    Appreciate it Gene. Yeah, the cole poster tanks are bitchin. Thanks for the post.
  5. westonboege

    westonboege XS650 Addict

    Bike is looking good! As has been said already... to each his own. I ride hartails along with sprung bikes. And i think my hard tail is more comfortable to ride than some sprung bikes ive ridden...

    Im not a fan of the frames matching the tins either. But a darker blue for the frame with the tins being a different shade/hue might look sick!
  6. topshelf333

    topshelf333 XS650 Enthusiast

    I love hardtails. They aren't nearly as bad to ride as compared to the reputation they have. As far as color goes, ill be going wet black on the frame, and illusion blueberry on the tank, and fender. I was thinking about being cute with the colored frame, but i keep getting further from liking the idea, so black frame it is.
  7. I think it looks good compared to a lot of them Ive seen,Im not sure about the lightening holes in the cast wheels though.
  8. topshelf333

    topshelf333 XS650 Enthusiast

    Zmax, thanks. I actually really like the skeletonized wheels. Makes the stock wheels look nice in my opinion, but not everyone will like. Thanks for the comment.
  9. figure8

    figure8 XS650 Guru

    Any updates? Did you get the upper top tree shaved?
  10. I like the looks,Im just worried about them structurally.
  11. topshelf333

    topshelf333 XS650 Enthusiast

    No, i haven't really had time. We just had a bunch of coating work show up, so I've been trying to knock that out. I did some more work to my electronics tank, and that's about it.
  12. topshelf333

    topshelf333 XS650 Enthusiast

    I've seen it done quite a few times, and haven't heard of anyone's wheel blowing up yet. There is a lot of structural strength in the outer portion of the I-beams, so i would think it would be just fine.
  13. TwoManyXS1Bs

    TwoManyXS1Bs BBQ Hunter Top Contributor

  14. topshelf333

    topshelf333 XS650 Enthusiast

    I like the slotted look as well. I would feel safe riding those as well, but thats just me i guess.
  15. mrtwowheel

    mrtwowheel Honda Etched On Brain Top Contributor

    Concerning hardtails, I have other larger bikes, more comfortable bikes, for longer rides. That's why I want to build a hardtail from one of these, just something different to ride to the diner and run to the store on. Back in the days when these bikes were new I considered them to be real dogs compared to other models on the market. At the same time I appreciated the mass production, affordability and long life of these 650s. I have no soft emotional spot for these in stock form.......so ..........to me they are prime bobber material.:bike:

    For a strong rear fender, you sure do have it with that fender and struts. What about the seat? I like the looks of a high, sprung and level seat, just looks more comfortable with the right bars.

    Color, I like the idea of a light shade of color on the frame and a darker shade of the same color on the tins, anything but black.

    Please, give us some tips and tricks on powder coating, with pictures.

  16. topshelf333

    topshelf333 XS650 Enthusiast

    Thanks for posting. Also Bubbles rules. lol I am in total agreement with you, in regard to stock xs650. They just aren't my thing, so I'm more than happy to perform surgery on it. As for powder coating, what information would you like? There is way too much information overall to put into a single post, but i would be happy to answer any questions any members may have. I'll try to get some pictures of some of our equipment, and post this evening as well.:thumbsup:
  17. mrtwowheel

    mrtwowheel Honda Etched On Brain Top Contributor

    Maybe some two tone or three tone parts (like wheels) and how it's done? Flake PC and how it's done? Your opinions on different metallic colors? PC friendly fillers? High temp PC? Just tell us everything that you know.

  18. topshelf333

    topshelf333 XS650 Enthusiast

    Lots of things we have shot can be seen on our facebook page. (Magnetikote) or on our instagram @magnetikote. Powder coating is similar to paint in the idea that prep is king. Only much more meticulous with powder. Ability to shoot multiple coats, such as candies is more or less depended upon a good ground, and a good quality gun. We have a Wagner Prima Spint X1, which is around $5500. Cheaper guns usually will require you to hot flock parts, which means you pre heat the part, and then shoot, which leads ro inconsistency in your coating. It can be done, as when we started we were using a $1000 gun when we started, but its significantly more difficult, and usually will lead to stripping, and re shooting.

    As far as filler is concerned, we use Tiger Epostrong. It is oven, and powder coat safe, but is only designed to fill 1/16" deep holes.

    We don't shoot much for high temp powder, as we dont get a lot of requests. We shoot Cerakote on firearms, exhaust, turbos, etc. So we don't really have much need for high temp powder.

    We shoot a lot of flakes, and don't have really anything bad to say about any of them. They all shoot about the same, other than some of the flake is bigger, and requires a flakeless clear over the top of it.

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