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ACHTUNG!!!

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by MaxPete, Sep 10, 2020.

  1. RustiePyles

    RustiePyles Semper Fortis XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    I work for a Deutsch GMBH equipment manufacturer in the states, and yes the Germans are notorious for high parts cost, market control, and proprietary fitment. But they make superior stuff. As we say in our industry; You can pay average prices for average equipment, or you can pay extraordinary prices for extraordinary equipment. I don't work for this company because they don't make money :devil:.
     
  2. MaxPete

    MaxPete Lucille, Betty, Demi & Gretel: I ask, THEY decide. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Raymond my good man, you have misspelled the key word in that sentence.....

    ......"aren't" should of course be "ain't".

    In Windsor Ontario, Chrysler operates their big Windsor Assembly Plant (WAP) and it builds the Pacifica minivan. Back some years ago, the products were known as the Dodge Caravan and its twin, the Plymouth Voyager as well as the up-market Chrysler version. They were entirely the same except for the badging - but the Chrysler variants had more leather and electronics.

    ....and yet, I would run into people who would insist that Plymouths were crummy vehicles and they would always be a "Dodge man - just like their Dad".

    No matter how hard I tried, I could not get them to believe that the Dodge and the Plymouth minivans were built on the same assembly line by the same people using the same parts on the same day. They'd go down the line one after the other with no (ZERO) distinction between them.

    In fact, except for a digit or two different in the VIN code, you couldn't tell which brand the vehicle would be until the badging was applied very late in the assembly process - and every once in a while, a Dodge would emerge with Plymouth hubcaps or vice-versa.
     
  3. gggGary

    gggGary When a whole one is just too much. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Icht iz not zee flaw in our product, it iz you lack of understand zee company's greatness.
     
  4. MaxPete

    MaxPete Lucille, Betty, Demi & Gretel: I ask, THEY decide. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Undt, vee haff vays of makkink you zee ze kompany's greatnezzz...:devilish:
     
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  5. Raymond

    Raymond XS650 rider & fettler XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Well, I need to point out this weren't in the Mittle of America, the Corporate Culture of H-D had percolated all the way to Surrey! That's Surrey, England, not Surrey, BC, BTW.
     
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  6. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty What should I put here? XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Never mess with a man who drives a Dodge. He's pissed off already. Al Bundy drove a Dodge on the TV show, Married, With Children. It was part of the joke.

    OK, back to the BMW.
     
  7. arcticXS

    arcticXS XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    Admittedly, Honda, and after a while, Kawasaki made high quality big 4 stroke bikes in the 70s. But I reckon BMW were at least as well made, but came at high cost. And for long distance rapid touring, very few bikes could match an R100RS back in the 70s. Goldwings had high speed stability issues, and the other japanese offerings were not that great in that respect either. Maybe a Guzzi Le Mans was the next alternative for serious mile munching.
     
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  8. Downeaster

    Downeaster Everything in XS Top Contributor

    Re: The Plymouth/Dodge thing: Try explaining to a hard-core Chevy man that a GMC pickup is identical except for badges or vice-versa. I bought them interchangeably depending on who had the best deal for many years when I was a GM Man.

    There are reasons there will NEVER be another GM product in my yard, but that's getting into touchy territory.
     
  9. Downeaster

    Downeaster Everything in XS Top Contributor

    Re: Das Deutschers

    First, Ich bin ein Deutscher, which explains a few things, but...

    HUGE technology geeks, whether it's necessary or not. Their cars/engines/motorcycles are engineered to within an inch of disaster, are expensive and difficult to work on, are MARVELOUS when they work, and a nightmare when they don't.

    This approach extends to software as well. The cannery I worked for bought into the SAP management software that computerized EVERYTHING! Of course there are advantages to tracking maintenance procedures, intervals, and parts inventory, but they just went nucking futz with it. Once I had a middlin' fair idea of how everything worked, it STILL took me 15-20 minutes to pull a fuse out of stock, log the repair, the manhours, the tech that did the work, reorder the part if needed, etc. etc. God forbid we should decide to change the manufacturer, model, hp, or electrical requirements of a motor on something...:yikes::wtf:
     
  10. ThatXS650Guy

    ThatXS650Guy More Sparky than Speed Racer XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    772
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    North GA
    :yikes:
    And just like that, ThatXS650Guy decided he would never own a BMW...
     
  11. MaxPete

    MaxPete Lucille, Betty, Demi & Gretel: I ask, THEY decide. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    ....but....what will you do with all your extra money T-XS650G?
     
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  12. ThatXS650Guy

    ThatXS650Guy More Sparky than Speed Racer XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    772
    1,975
    143
    North GA
    Ha! Uncle Sam has plans for my disposable income!
     
  13. MaxPete

    MaxPete Lucille, Betty, Demi & Gretel: I ask, THEY decide. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Yeah....and Johnny Canuck for mine.
    Dammit.
     
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  14. fredintoon

    fredintoon Fred Hill, S'toon. Top Contributor

    Hi Pete,
    back when i was modestly wealthy (after I'd got an inheritance & before my bitch-ex left me) I had a financial advisor.
    He said:-
    The Canadian Government is very frugal so that only 50% of what they spend is totally wasted.
    Income tax only brings in 30% of the money the Government spends.
    Thus if I pay no income tax at all they are still 70% ahead, right?
     
  15. MaxPete

    MaxPete Lucille, Betty, Demi & Gretel: I ask, THEY decide. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Actually Fred - I think that they have made some advancements on when you last received advice: they now waste as much as 70% of what they take in and give much of the rest of it to corporations to help fund their offshore tax havens.

    But why quibble - its only our money.

    Pete
     

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