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Airbox to cones...

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Josh, Sep 4, 2009.

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  1. XSLeo

    XSLeo XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    71XS1B, crank shaft windage? Not from what I understand. When you first start the engine the cold oil flows very slowly, due to being thick. The place the sump filter teas out is right by where the oil pump draws oil in. It is also the weakest part of the filter screnn. If you rev the engine before the oil thins a bit and oil flow increases the draw from the oil pump tears the weak spot out of the oil filter.
    You could use a sump extension six inches deep and this won't change.
    In inxs's pic you will se an oil cooler up by the styeering neck. This cooler drops the oil temps by about 40-50 degrees F. I have one very simular on mine and did some temp testing. Before and after.
    Adding the oil filter like his without cooling fins drops temps about 5 degrees F. the filter fins maybe another 5 to 10 degrees F.
    They also add oil capacity.
    If you do a lot of city stop and go or ride in hot weather The oil cooler is a good thing.
    Leo
     
  2. eagletoot

    eagletoot eagletoot

    Im putting the xs cone filters on my 82 heritage special 2 stock mikuni bs34 carbs, im running the stock headers and will be installing Megaphone Bell End upswept style motorcycle muffler. Im needing to buy new fuel lines and fuel filter , what should i be considering when pirchasing the fuel lines and fuel filter? Are there a assortment of fuel lines with different I.D.? Any suggestions on getting the right parts and what are some pros/cons of running this setup? Sorry if these are silly questions, this is my first bike and first build.

    Thanks,
    Jeff

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  3. figure8

    figure8 XS650 Guru

    Be prepared to up the jetting in your carbs if you switch to pods if you hadn't planned to already. If you haven't read this part yet, don't buy mikesxs pods. Are you running stock tank? Take your tank and carbs to a local shop and figure out what gas line will work best for. I've never really bothered with expensive fuel filters, the plastic ones work fine to me.
     
  4. eagletoot

    eagletoot eagletoot

    i already have the pods from mikesxs. whats wrong with them? yeah im running the stock tank and stock carbs, i dont have money to take my bike to a shop. i have brembo monster caliper for the front with a 16mm bore m/c, which ive read is too big, so i will looking to convert to a smaller size bore. im needing to find a brake cable for it and find the conversion kit to have a smaller bore. any suggestions?
     
  5. figure8

    figure8 XS650 Guru

    The stock carbs just don't work well with Mikes pods. I've never tried them but I've never read anything good about them on here. The good news is you can get a good pair such as UNI's for around $35.
     
  6. eagletoot

    eagletoot eagletoot

    any suggestions on the brake cable for my brembo caliper
     
  7. xsoregon

    xsoregon XS650 New Member

    chased carb problems with pod filters, uni filters worked awesome
    pod filters sit on shelf, might make interesting pasties!
     
  8. scott s

    scott s XS650 Junkie

    I've run Mikes pods, genuine K&N and UNI pods. Never had a problem with any of them. For the money, UNI filters are great. Run the Mikes pods. You'll probably be OK.
     
  9. weaselbeak

    weaselbeak XS650 Junkie

    I could never seem to quite get there with pleated cones. Switched to foam filters and it was like magic. Maybe I'm not mechanic enough for the pleated cones, but spot on is spot on.
     
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  10. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge, is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    I love that guy. Cracks me up every time.
     
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  11. xjwmx

    xjwmx XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    Haha I thought he was serious but nuts until he cut the bolt with the scissors on his pocket knife
     
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  12. Superjet

    Superjet XS650 Junkie Top Contributor

    Lol!!! Precision knife (vise grips and razor blade) soldering with a sparkler!!! Genius....a throttle body / damper for pods!
     
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  13. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Snuff or nots for the intake; BRILLIANT!
     
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  14. Uhlaf

    Uhlaf XS650 Addict

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  15. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

    Remembering the huge tuning improvements myself switching from "cones" to Uni pods on a No Air Box XS.
    Now Im facing a similar question.
    79F with the stock airbox halves.
    Used K&N filters in the box halves.
    They are dirty. Worth cleaning and using ? Or a waste of time ?
    Perhaps its best to find stock in the box filters ?
    Thanks, -RT
     
  16. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    Yes, well worth cleaning and using them. K&N pods don't work well but the airbox versions are just fine. Since K&N filters have become popular on cars now, most auto parts store will have what's called the K&N filter "recharger" kit. It contains the special cleaner required and the special K&N filter oil.
     
  17. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

    Again good news, K&N in box filters seem like a fine re-usable option. The jetting is still stock 79 so well see.
    In the past I fell into the large group who thought K&N individuals without the airbox were a good idea. Not so much .
     
  18. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    Yes, I started out in that camp too because I had used them previously on many other bikes. But, what I didn't realize at the time was that none of those other bikes had CV carbs.
     
  19. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge, is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    That Ichiban character cut some rubber from the K&N's to expose the air ports at the back of the carb. I'm wondering now if that's actually a good fix for the K&N's. Anyone out there got some K&N's to give it a go?

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