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Electronic Ignition for xs650

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by paul650cn, Nov 12, 2016.

  1. billy icon

    billy icon test pilot,gunnie pig, and all around experiment

    ahh I see I think you did oreder one GG..G.. Gary . Ive been thinking of getting one for a while but didn't understand the listing, do you know what the hek it means when it says 30% duty cycle, the only time im used to that reference is with welders, like it can run for 3 minutes strait in 10 minutes (30%) duty?? that what wierded me out about the Tytronics part, and another question if any one can decipher that listing, do you guys think its for points coils??? oh and G...G,,,..Gary did you have to pay shipping when you bought it off the site direct???
     
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  2. Jim

    Jim I have a plan. It's something to deviate from. Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    I believe they're talking about dwell time on the coil.
     
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  3. billy icon

    billy icon test pilot,gunnie pig, and all around experiment

    is that the same as the dwell I used to set in my old ford? I think I answeereddeed my own question, I didn't used to set the gap I would set the Dwell on me points
     
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  4. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Total was $110 USD
    Yes I understood them to be referring to dwell also.
    I think it will work fine with any coil in the 2.5 to 5 ohm primary range.
    2019-11-09-07-23-www.tytronic.com.png
    Couple notes, ramblings;
    I think the black and red dots on the rotor are the "dwell" looks like about 60 degrees or 30 degrees crank. Pete did similar He first used 90 degrees tween the magnets then changed to 60 degrees. With two units on the plate, like two points sets it seems it might be possible to reposition one for use on a rephased crank motor.... This might solve an issue for me. I like the "potted" look of the electronics (coils?) and fairly thick looking wires I have always thought the Pamco would have been better done this way.
    For the record LOL order date was 11-8-19
     
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  5. timbeck

    timbeck XS650 Junkie XS650.com Supporter

    I'm not sure this unit will be our "go to" ignition system but I am sure that Gary will figure out if it is.....
    tim
     
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  6. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Would guess the condensers won't be needed?
     
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  7. MaxPete

    MaxPete Life with Lucille...I suggest, she decides. Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Has it already arrived?

    if so - wow!
     
  8. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    LOL but I did get notice that they have shipped.


    DATE TIME LOCATION STATUS
    Nov 9 10:54 PM Guangzhou Ems, China Processed through facility
    Nov 9 6:34 PM China Acceptance
     
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  9. MaxPete

    MaxPete Life with Lucille...I suggest, she decides. Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Guangzhou is an amazing place - almost everything seems to be made there and EVERYTHING is for sale there.

    P
     
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  10. Well, considering where it is made, it seems a bit pricey. Probably only costs them pennies to produce these in PRC, but beggars can’t be choosers...
    I would be curious to see any legible install notes or an informed technical review of the product. Thanks to ggGary giving it a try.
     
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  11. Signal

    Signal XS650 Junkie Top Contributor

    Yes well done Gary this will be of benefit to many what ever the out come.
    Here is a link to another forum thread that could be helpful.
    http://www.2strokeworld.net/forum/index.php?topic=111.0

    It is on a two stroke and is crank driven I haven't really read through the thread but it looks to me like it is a points replacement with no advance or retard. Basic principal is still similar.
     
  12. xjwmx

    xjwmx XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    So Pete's dwell was 30 degrees at the crank, and it was for a Special years coil.
     
  13. billy icon

    billy icon test pilot,gunnie pig, and all around experiment

    soooo after using a google translator, to write these guys a email, I was surprised to have ended up being a distributor for these guys, .lol that wasn't the point of the E mail but uh ok.. anyways as soon as GgG gary lets us know if these are good for our uses, I can provide them for a discount over the prices on there web site... feels kinda weird to me, as Im a mechanic, not a service writer/salesman … if anyone has ever worked in the auto repair industry they know that mechanic/technitions are one kinda person... and service writers/salesman are another kind of person... and I have found Ive never fit or gotton on to well in there world (salemen)… but I digress... Like I said I was gonna wait for GGG gary to try it and let us known but now Im kinda jelous and I want to be a guinnie pig too... so Im gonna try one too and I will report back, but don't take my word for its quality lol since Im now allowed to distribute them...
     
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  14. billy icon

    billy icon test pilot,gunnie pig, and all around experiment

    ok guys , there are three kits on there way to me now... so as soon as we know if these are any good , then I will have them to offer up to anyone that is interested... If your dieing to try one now, I can ship it out to you , but I would prefer that ggg gary and I put them thru there paces and sort out the details before hand, the price will be lower than the websites price...
     
  15. timbeck

    timbeck XS650 Junkie XS650.com Supporter

    This is great, progress is being made.....
    tim
     
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  16. mrtwowheel

    mrtwowheel Honda Etched On Brain Top Contributor

    I'm wishing you guys luck with that but I'm still holding out for Mike's to work out their bugs in that $70 ignition. Would like to see some emphasis here in helping them with that. Their instructions look damn good, better than Pete's instructions here that I always had trouble following. Still don't believe there was any theft involved there, more like a handoff.
     
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  17. xjwmx

    xjwmx XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    $110 is a lot compared to some other Chinese products. I wouldn't be surprised if one could work out a best offer kind of deal, especially buying in quantity. If they work out. He says he's been at it for 25 yrs.and they look good from what you can see, so... Hurry up boat.
     
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  18. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Any reseller should prolly factor in a percentage to cover a failure rate, so they can eat an occasional defective unit without reservation. Will be interesting to seen how resistant they are to PMA capacitor voltage "excursions" and DIY wiring snafus. Wonder why the price discrepancy between the Yamaha and Honda pricing?
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2019 at 6:28 AM
  19. Superjet

    Superjet XS650 Junkie Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

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    billy icon test pilot,gunnie pig, and all around experiment

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