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FAIL! Steering bearings: a new kid in town?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by gggGary, Sep 18, 2020.

  1. gggGary

    gggGary I'm listening, change my mind XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    FAIL!wrong bearings sent, money refunded.
    In my continued race for the bottom, these showed up on fleabay
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/293214129385
    New HQ Powersports Steering Bearing Kit For Yamaha XS650 1970-1972, 1975-1983
    US $30.97
    steering bearings.jpg
    Ordered a set, will slap them in the sawzall refugee and report
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2020
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  2. hovel

    hovel ol' stupid

    Please share the number on the bearing and the number on the seal. Thanks.
     
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  3. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty What should I put here? XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Tell us who made the bearings when you get them.
     
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  4. gggGary

    gggGary I'm listening, change my mind XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    I can already tell the seals are the fitz-none just like all balls ships.
     
  5. StreetTraxx

    StreetTraxx XS650 Member

    Thanks gggGary, I just ordered a set too!
     
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  6. gggGary

    gggGary I'm listening, change my mind XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Bearings arrived today. They do not fit. Both races have same ID, looks right for the lower but too big for top position. Didn't check OD's, marked as for a Kaw.:poke: bag # matches # in auction. Contacted vender.
    20200921_152723.jpg 20200921_152540.jpg
     
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  7. GLJ

    GLJ Never go faster than your guardian angle can fly. Top Contributor

    You pay your money and take your chances! Want to buy a XS2 speedo cable?
     
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  8. StreetTraxx

    StreetTraxx XS650 Member

    Ha! Same thing happened to me: just got mine, and bearings are wrong: for a Kawasaki......"Daniel" in Customer Service tried real hard to get me what I need, but no luck. Obviously they've got a cross-reference problem...
     
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  9. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    20,041
    11,973
    813
    Yes, they do. Here's a list of bikes that use the same bearings as the 650 that I found on the "Do the Ton" forum. Notice they're all Yamahas .....

    Upper: 25 x 48 x 15.2
    Lower: 30 x 48 x 15

    Yamaha FZR400R
    Yamaha SXR400
    Yamaha SX500B/C/D/E (75-78 ), TX500/A (73-74)
    Yamaha XS550RK/RJ (82-83), XZ550RK/RJ (82-83)
    Yamaha FZ600 (86-88 )
    Yamaha SRX600S/SC (86), SRX600T
    Yamaha TX650/A (73-74)
    Yamaha XJ650G/H//J/K (80-83), XJ650LH (81), XJ650LJ/LK/RJ
    (82-83)
    Yamaha XS6501/1B/XS2 (70-72), XS650B-H/2F (75-81), XS650SE-SH
    (78-81), XS650SJ/SK (82-83)
    Yamaha TX750 (73-74)
    Yamaha XJ750J/K/MK/RH/RJ/RK (81-83)
    Yamaha XV750H/J/K/MK (81-83), XV750SE (82)
    Yamaha XV920J/K/MK (82-83), XV920RH/RJ (81-83)
    Yamaha XV1000K/L Virago (83-84)

    I looked up the kits for some of these other models and they're all wrong too, all the same incorrect 104-1015 kit.
     
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  10. gggGary

    gggGary I'm listening, change my mind XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

  11. hovel

    hovel ol' stupid

    I believe that is just the Powersports SKU. None of the other numbers make any sense except that I think the 3420 is a standard outer shell. I cannot cross reference the 020690 on the inner race nor the 34202C55 on the package. Something's goofy, probably just me.
     
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  12. gggGary

    gggGary I'm listening, change my mind XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    The correct bearing sizes per all balls are
    top 25 id 48 od 13 height
    bottom 30 id 8 od 12 height

    both bearings shipped were 30 id 52 od and 11.75 height
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2020
  13. gggGary

    gggGary I'm listening, change my mind XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Well they took care of me.
    " I have issued a full refund and there is no need to send the bearings back.
    Thanks Faith"
    The race to the bottom continues
     
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  14. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty What should I put here? XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Last time I got bearings, I bought Koyo from Quality Bearings Online. Shipped cheap and overnight via DHL from the UK.

    (Sorry, I forgot this thread is about bottom shelf.)
     
  15. gggGary

    gggGary I'm listening, change my mind XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    :laugh::laugh:
    but do they have bearings to fit the xs steering stem, kinda recall that top bearing is an oddball.
    What other cheap alternatives has anyone found?
    [​IMG]
     
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  16. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty What should I put here? XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    I see your point. No match.
     
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  17. GLJ

    GLJ Never go faster than your guardian angle can fly. Top Contributor

    [​IMG]
    Gary it's put lipstick on a pig. Not mud.
     
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  18. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    20,041
    11,973
    813
    This chart is from Goran's site and yes, that 15.2mm thick top bearing is rather oddball I'll bet .....

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. gggGary

    gggGary I'm listening, change my mind XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

  20. GLJ

    GLJ Never go faster than your guardian angle can fly. Top Contributor

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