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First time you dropped a bike...

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by OdysseusXS, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. Hey everybody,

    I've only been riding for two years (on the road) and so far I've avoided putting the bike down. I know it'll happen, just a matter of time and probability. I'd be interested in hearing anyone's 'first crash' stories, just to learn from other's mistakes, pick up a few things to look out for... This is not intended to be some sort of 'tall tales' BS session, just want to know how your first decent crash occurred. Might end up with a few basics that might help keep me (and other novice riders) off the asphalt for a bit longer.:thumbsup:
     
  2. Hairic

    Hairic XS650 Addict

    Well didnt put the bike down in this story however it was a learning experience. Short story, decided to repaint one of my guitars, needed a rattle can took the bike wich was a 2004 r6 special edition flames, just beautifull. Any way on the way back to the house had my can of paint tucked under the windscreen, last turn I veered left to make a right and the can fell down into the forks and ferings sticking the steering to the left straight twards an oncomig car, so I slammed the bars right and blew up the can of white paint all over the bike and me... didnt wreck but it was an expensive mistake that could of been avoided.
     
  3. Ahhhrrrgh, I can imagine all that white paint blasting all over your pride and joy. Always wary of just stuffing gear into available spots on the bike. I don't like wearing a back pack, but at least my gear is outta the way. How did you get all that rattle can goodness off the bike?
     
  4. Hairic

    Hairic XS650 Addict

    Actually had to tear it all the way down. Used alcohol an every thing I could took about 4 of us a few days... ill see if I still have a pic of it somwhere.
     
  5. Hell, I hate overspray, much less a whole spray can of paint. My first bike (SRX 250) was awesome for a ratty daily rider, but the PO had given it a red rattle can pain job. Awful, didn't even bother to cover other bits up. Probably walked outside, felt the strong breeze on his face and decided it was a good day to give the bike a fresh coat of paint. Still miss that bike though. It was fun in the twisties, even if it had the power of a disabled mosquito.
     
  6. Hairic

    Hairic XS650 Addict

    couldnt find the tear down pics but this is the bike and me when I was a senior in highschool.
     

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  7. Johnt3

    Johnt3 Still learning...

    I got one for ya. Always check your oil!
    I had a cb200 back in the early 80's, nice bike only it had an oil leak that a young and broke me should've fixed. Went out to a buddies house, nobody home on the way back on a gravel road doing 50+ mph one of the cam bearings seized locking the engine and rear wheel up.
    It took what seems like forever to pull in the clutch and save me from a rough spill on gravel. Keeping your wits and checking your oil levels are the lessons I learned.
    Had to push the damn bike 6 miles back home.:doh:
    Dang Hairic, that's one hell of a story man.:D
     
  8. Hairic

    Hairic XS650 Addict

    Ha ha I know man can laugh about it now, wasnt the case then. I have alot more but dont want to hog the thread so thats all for now.
     
  9. weaselbeak

    weaselbeak XS650 Junkie

    In two years, you've seen a lot of it. I teach young riders, 3 sons, a grandson, and a young girl so far without incident. I teach what they never see in a manual.

    Here is some of it.

    1. There is no such thing as the right of way. You lose all collisions.

    2. I ride traffic instead of the lights and signs. People run lights all the time. See previous rule.

    3. The front brake is used at ALL stopping with the exception of traction problems, such as sand in the intersection. (I live in Iowa). When you really need to stop fast, the front brake must be automatic in your reflex, and no, you won't think that fast.

    4. Front brake is covered and eyes are on full alert anytime a vehicle is approaching you, or you them, at a right angle. I don't care if it looks 100% parked. Sooner or later someone (and you won't believe it when it happens) is going to pull out in front of you.

    5. Same with oncoming traffic. I expect every car to suddenly turn in front of me, because the day is coming when one will. If you have the sun at your back, it is on the windshield of the cars from the other direction. And it takes only a glimmer to block his vision of you. "I didn't see him" is a common excuse, and it was true.

    6. Not everyone is turning. When you are sliding by a line of cars because someone is trying to turn left, a car in that line is going to pull out into your lane so as not to have to wait.

    7. You better be on your best guard, because everyone else is on a cell phone, playing with the radio, yelling at the kid in the back seat....you get the idea.

    8. Never, ever pull up close to the car stopped in front of you. The guy you are watching approach this stop in your mirror (you better be) may not stop. You need someplace to go.

    9. Fully expect the guy in the next lane to switch into yours without looking. It happens all the time.

    10. I tend to ride in the middle of the lane, but move to one side or the other when stopping at a light or sign. Thousands of cars have sat there, and some were invariably leaking oil or antifreeze. Not good.

    11. A pet peeve of mine. Some guys prefer the middle of the lane, equal distance from left and right side danger. Some tend to hug center a bit more, as to increase reaction time from animals out of the ditches. Some like the right side as it increases spacing between you and the cars from opposite directions. I don't profess one to be more correct in the real world. However, on two lanes or four, when a car or especially a semi approaches from the rear to pass me, I get real close to that centerline. This forces him to use the OTHER lane to make the pass. As they go by I will slow slightly and pull back to the right to reduce the risk of some idiot pulling back in too quick. People who ride on the right side of their lane can certainly relay stories about being passed with the other vehicle right off the handlebar, and barely getting 2 wheels across the centerline.

    12. Trust nobody, ever. Read this rule as many times as it takes to sink in. Don't trust turn signals, or even expect their use, or expect their brake lights to work. Zero trust. It's your blood, your bones, your pain, your face, and your ass that get tore up.

    13. Sorry guys, even ONE BEER is too many.

    14. I wear a helmet because I do not like the wind in my ears or bugs in my teeth. I wear full face because I hate the idea of jaw and dental reconstructive surgery. There are legitimate reasons why it may be less safe to wear one, such as hearing awareness, it is argued to death. I cap.

    There are many more lessons that others can chime in with, or even debate somewhat what I have typed for reasons of their own. This is based on my experience at the age of 64 with over 40 years untouched. I think these are the primary ways to stay alive.
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2013
  10. Must have been a scary moment when the back wheel locked up, you must have been pretty pleased when you came to a stop without dropping her (bike).
     
  11. Thanks for taking the time to put all that wisdom out there Weaselbeak, I'm printing this one out for some of the young kids I teach who are all crazy to get bikes. Hope your advice benefits everyone who reads it. Cheers :)
     
  12. Johnt3

    Johnt3 Still learning...

    Yes, Thank you Weaselbeak, I will be using and remembering what you've said.
    Yeah, the bike did give me a little warning,but it was still a surprise! I admit I felt pretty cocky then, I feel pretty lucky now!:wink2:
     
  13. weaselbeak

    weaselbeak XS650 Junkie

    You might take the time to look up The Hurt Report, the most extensive and massive analysis of motor vehicle accidents ever undertaken, as far as I know. You will be surprised. At the time, IIRC, over 1/2 the deaths involved alcohol, no helmets, and high speed curves. There were a lot of Harleys in there, my bias tells me that back then it was hand in hand with booze.
     
  14. Over here in Australia it's illegal for learner riders to have any alcohol in their system at all, same with any other chemicals. IMHO if you need to add drugs to your riding experience, then maybe you just need to get better at riding, or find better places to ride.
     
  15. wiggins

    wiggins XS650 Addict

    About a year after I started riding I was heading home one night. At the time, the rear brake wasn't working that well (drum that I never bothered replacing shoes) on my chopped xs, well, I live on a gravel road in hilly country. I "gently" applied front brake while going down the hill to slow down a bit (they had grated the road while I was away) and locked up the front tire, bike and I went down at about 10mph on left side. Scuffed up my hand and bent my foot rest backwards. Lesson learned. Don't slow down. lol
     
  16. Hairic

    Hairic XS650 Addict

    My number one in any vehicle is check the road... everytime I change road type to test things, I will apply brakes, swerve a little just to get the feel so I know what to expect.
     
  17. C'mon fellas, no one else has any stories to share?
     
  18. weaselbeak

    weaselbeak XS650 Junkie

    There are tons of them. I once had a guy in a pickup slide all the way down a gravel hill onto the blacktop I was riding. I saw him coming so it wasn't a close call, but he slid clear out onto the road. I bitched at him and he explained that he only had rear brakes. My reply to him would most likely get deleted here.

    I also have personally known 3 people over the years that have lost traction and dumped bikes by hitting railroad tracks that cross the road at an angle. If they are wet, they are extra deadly. You must adjust your angle as you hit them. Also, the 1st 30 minutes or so in a light rain will make those tar strips like ice. A lady on a Guzzi is paralyzed because she did not adjust her entry angle getting onto an interstate ramp where angled tar strips are common. I helped a man load his wrecked Goldwing onto a trailer when it went out from under him just simply starting a pass and losing it on a wet strip. He was wearing full leathers and gloves, or it would have been way bad..

    Maybe the most critical thing on some of your older bikes are the rear wheel bearings. You lock up that rear wheel tight and you lose all steering control. Ask me how I know. I ended up in the wrong lane and oncoming traffic would certainly have killed me if there had been any. You just go into an uncontrollable weave.

    I ride in the center, mostly, with my headlight adjusted slightly toward the ditch, to get a headstart on those damn coons and possums, especially deer, that are a constant hazard in Iowa's night time. By nephew never bought into that theory and he's now wrecked 2 bikes, both fairly new, and broken his collarbone and gotten skinned up on our deer.
     
  19. Weaselbeak, the railway crossings are slick as in the wet, I nearly dropped my first bike just easing through a left turn which fed onto a main road, the left hand verge was painted with massive white stripes, like riding on greasy glass, the back wheel started to go but luckily hit proper tarmac and I got traction back. I liked the earlier comment about checking your road surface whenever it changes from bitumen to dirt/gravel/concrete. This site is a freaking goldmine. Thanks. As for wildlife in my area, the only thing I have to watch for are 'roos if I'm riding around the Adelaide foothills/Barossa/Chain of Ponds in the morning or at dusk. Google earth the spots I mentioned, good riding!
     
  20. BTW, in the event that I do have a rear wheel lock up on me, how do you react appropriately to keep it upright?
     

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