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Found in barn, XS650E

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by jetmechmarty, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    I have a genuine pneumatic screw knocker from my aviation career, but..... my new garage has only one electrical outlet and it's not the 220vac I need to run my compressor. This motorcycle shouldn't be my priority right now, but I find this stuff to be good for my brain.
     
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  2. grizld1

    grizld1 Grumpy old man Top Contributor

    Marty, re. the tank mount post, you might consider this rude,crude, but quick and effective solution. Find a coupling nut, turn it in your drillpress, and file it round, or cut a piece of steel tubing to length and run a 6x1.0 mm. tap into it. JB Weld that new post to a fender washer or a flat piece of steel. JB the resulting piece under the hole with the new post sticking up through it. Flatten the surface around the hole with more JB. And congrats on the acquisition--a late Standard, rarest of the rare!
     
  3. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    How about two out of three? The third one rounded out immediately. I drilled the head off and turned it out with my fingers. It didn’t like the #3 phillips. I cannot locate my #3 JIS, if I even have one.
     
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  4. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    My question for those of you who have done a few of these, is why is my oil pump not trashed? There is nothing on the magnetic plugs, either. Where is the likely place that metal came from?
     
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  5. Jim

    Jim I have a plan. It's something to deviate from. Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Cam chain guide would be my guess.
     
  6. 650Skull

    650Skull Dinosaur Lives Top Contributor

    Throw away the impact driver and buy a set of through shaft screw drivers, some have a hex head poking through the hand grip. Better to get the screws out by using a hammer and tapping the shaft while using the hand grip with twisting pressure to get out stuck screws. If the hand pressure isn't enough then a small adjustable wrench or open end spanner on the hex head using pressure while tapping with a hammer works EVERY time.............can get damaged screws out as well using these type of screwdrivers...........Threw my impact driver away because it was braking bits and found the screwdrivers 100% better...........and gets into those hard to get at places the impact driver has trouble with
     
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  7. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    I expected to find the plastic pieces of it, and I did not find any.
    :umm:
     
  8. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    I have this one. Vessel Impacta. It didn’t get it done either. I know what you’re talking about. It’s works like my screw knocker .
     

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  9. Jim

    Jim I have a plan. It's something to deviate from. Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Could be the PO changed the oil previously and removed the plastic bits...
     
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  10. Jim

    Jim I have a plan. It's something to deviate from. Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    My opinion Marty... aluminum flakes ain't a show stopper. Get it running and do a few oil changes and see where to go from there. If it is the guide, you can run it like that for bit and see if it's worth pullin' the motor and changing it.
    Ferrous metal on the other hand.... :yikes:
     
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  11. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Marty what happened to that poor side filter? why is it so beat up?
     
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  12. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    It was glued in. How will I get the gasket out?
     
  13. Jim

    Jim I have a plan. It's something to deviate from. Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Most parts stores carry it.....

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  14. thuban

    thuban Horse Scratcher

    You guys are braver than I am. I just use a impact driver, BFH and tap em'. My secret weapon is my ZETA Model ZT10130 ratchet and with magnetic tip. It gets into the smallest places and high quality.
     
  15. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    This?
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  16. thuban

    thuban Horse Scratcher

    Yep, I love it!
     
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  17. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Once a "phillips" head is mangled all bets are off. I will set the "correct drive bit" with a hammer before putting the impact wrench on it. FWIW your stripped out head would have been a perfect place to be using a LH drill bit. Anyone working on old stuff should have a set at the ready, about $10 at the local auto store.
    On that nasty glued on gasket at the bottom of the filter well;I grind a broken hacksaw blade to an "angled chisel" edge with rounded corners to prevent gouging and wrap with tape to get in there and scrape the remaining gasket out. It's a pain to do anyways.
     
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  18. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    :doh: I do have a set of backwards bits. I'm such a mess, I don't know what I have. Oh well. The job is done. I'll try to find socket heat replacements at True Value this morning.
     
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  19. thuban

    thuban Horse Scratcher

    Yep, cam chain guide. But looks like some magnetic material also. That damn grinding starter gear. I built my engine up clean. I had to take it back down to change out the leaking head. I had only used the starter to turn the engine over without the plugs in it to get oil to the lifters. I rode it 40 miles all total and tried to use the starter once when it died. In that short amount of starter usage I found more metal in the case than I would like to ever see. I disconnected the starter.
    Thu.
     
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  20. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    I just noticed the OE genuine Yamaha sump screen is NLA. Which way do you go, assuming I don't wish to make a repair at this time? I'm probably asking what's already answered.
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    Did you fellows already critique this?
     
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