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Found in barn, XS650E

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by jetmechmarty, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    Perhaps I'll do that. It's not like it's a Brough Superior. I have another engine, though it's an '81.

    I thought the shorted rotor would be reason enough to park it. It wasn't going far that way.
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  2. mrtwowheel

    mrtwowheel Honda Etched On Brain Top Contributor

    What Jim said about not cleaning the side filter makes sense. Any place to place an abundance of extra magnets to grab on to things that might still get through the filters?
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  3. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    The gaskets I removed appear to be OEM. I can't be positive, but they look it. The bolts I removed have perfectly clean threads, especially the six sump bolts. I would expect those to be dirty. Also, all seemed to have equal torque on them. The PO was a cop, not a mechanic. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
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  4. JAX71224

    JAX71224 jax71224

    I bought one but yet to use it.........
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  5. Raymondo

    Raymondo XS650 owner, fettler, setting out on a journey Top Contributor

    It's a good hypothesis. Could be the person who repaired the damage which led to all those metal pieces wasn't aware of the side filter?
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  6. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    One of my favorite games XSeology, Sifting through the debris, creating a theory about what the PO did (didn't do) to create such a fine mess. It can be a useful alert to other issues that may need looking into.
    In this case removing the oil feed pipe at the cylinder base or at lease cracking a banjo loose from the head to check for oil flow may be wise. Peeking in valve cover at a cam lobes can provide clues as to engine health, history of oil changes. Seems like you can get a glimpse of the RH crank ball bearing race with the clutch cover off?
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  7. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    Does it have schwarf collecting magnets on it?
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  8. Ozboy

    Ozboy XS650 Addict

    I have the Heiden filter but yet to do an oil change. Soon tho. No magnets but both sump bolts do have magnets and large ones too. I will post when I do finally do an oil change and filter clean.
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  9. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    I adjusted the cam chain, or at least, I intended to. The pin is flush. It does not move in and out as I rotate the engine. So, does that mean the chain is new, or the adjuster is frozen?

    I adjusted the valves. Only a very small adjustment on the left side. The right side was on spec. .004 inlet and .006 outlet.

    This is not what I expected.
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  10. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    I know some of you were just talking about this someplace, but I didn’t read it. Too much wear?
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  11. TwoManyXS1Bs

    TwoManyXS1Bs BBQ Hunter Top Contributor

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  12. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter


    Back off the cam chain adjuster, does the pin wiggle now? A slight wiggle is more important than the exact location vs. flush. It will be fine if a bit proud and flush when it moves in.
    Good on the valves, wise to recheck after a few hundred miles of running.
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2019
  13. grizld1

    grizld1 Grumpy old man Top Contributor

    Yep, bobweights look better than most, but let your continuity tester tell you if the advance interval is good.
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  14. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    Yes, this is all new XS650 territory for me. All of my previous experience is on the electronic ignition models. I'm going to have to take the advance apart and lube it. I reckon I'll figure it out.
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  15. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    Don't forget to lube up the advance rod too, that's very important. Your advance doesn't look bad or worn much. To judge wear, you can observe how the slash marks on the little disc and backing plate align. The better they do, the less wear you have.
  16. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    I found everything anyone should need to know, here:
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  17. RadMax

    RadMax XS650 Enthusiast

    Barn Finds REPRESENT!!!!!
  18. JAX71224

    JAX71224 jax71224

    No magnet in Heiden sump screen , just in drain plugs...........
  19. 59Tebo

    59Tebo 59Tebo Top Contributor

    "....That'll do , donkey, that'll do..."
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  20. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

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