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It's past time to start XS2 Resurrection

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by GLJ, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

    Auto scrap yard coolant over fill res ...
     

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  2. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge, is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Empty thinner can....

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  3. GLJ

    GLJ If you can't laugh at youself you shouldn't laugh Top Contributor

    Did some testing on the coil this morning. Started out with coil at 55 degrees, 3.4 ohms and 3.5 amps current draw. Didn't want to make junk out of it by just running current through it till it fried so I ran current through for 3-5 minuets and then let it set for 3-5 minuets. After doing this a 8 or 10 times I ended up at 115 degrees, 4 ohms resistance and 2.8 amps. I also tapped on it with a ratchet handle during test. I can find nothing wrong with it.
    I've still heard nothing from Pete. If no word from him by tomorrow morning I'll have to go to plan B. I'm sorry but if a company doesn't get back to you in a week I don't think they ever will. Shame it's a nice product.
     
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  4. TwoManyXS1Bs

    TwoManyXS1Bs BBQ Hunter Top Contributor

    Also ensure no continuity of the primary to the secondary, at that temp...
     
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  5. GLJ

    GLJ If you can't laugh at youself you shouldn't laugh Top Contributor

    Infinity
     
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  6. GLJ

    GLJ If you can't laugh at youself you shouldn't laugh Top Contributor

    A little progress today. This afternoon I got a email form Pete. No words of wisdom but at least there is no doubt he is aware of my problem.
     
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  7. GLJ

    GLJ If you can't laugh at youself you shouldn't laugh Top Contributor

    Still nothing from Pete. Don't know what to think. I thought I've asked him nicely for help with a product he sold me. He didn't seem to have a problem taking my money, just seems to have a problem with after sales help. Oh well live and learn.
    Now I have to go to plan B. In this case B stands for breaker points. I've got everything I need to put them back in except good springs for the advance. I found new OEM springs on Ebay, they are ordered. I'm sure down the rode I'll put a Boyer system on it, right now I fell a bit snake bit on electronic ignition.
     
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  8. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

    Great news ! Stock breaker points have been my "plan A" for 4 of these XS's over the years and it still works. ;)
     
  9. arowan

    arowan XS650 Enthusiast

    Dang man! You did a great job with this bike and thread! Did i miss pictures of it all the way together? I flipped through the thread and saw a lot of pics but none “completed”. What i saw looks great though!
     
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  10. GLJ

    GLJ If you can't laugh at youself you shouldn't laugh Top Contributor

    No glamor shots. The bikes a ten footer. After new exhaust is on I'll post better pics.
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  11. GLJ

    GLJ If you can't laugh at youself you shouldn't laugh Top Contributor

    New exhaust showed up today. It's on and sounds good. Stainless looks a lot better than rusty paint. Since this is all on the side full access under motor and I can put a center stand back on it. Not an exact fit for a XS2. I need to finish making hanger bracket for it. Tomorrow going to install Boyer ignition. If that goes well phase 1 will be done. Should have a dependable daily rider again.
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  12. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

    All Good news !
    Centerstands are just too convenient to not have.
    Good going .
    -RT
     
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  13. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    That Delkavic exhaust looks great! I’ll bet it sounds nice, and I also like the fact that it’s stainless. A BIG improvement. Good luck with your Boyer install ! :thumbsup:
     
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  14. arowan

    arowan XS650 Enthusiast

    Nice! Got my Boyer on and mine is running good again! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the Boyer.
     
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  15. GLJ

    GLJ If you can't laugh at youself you shouldn't laugh Top Contributor

    Got a few things done yesterday.
    First thing was to finish exhaust bracket. Delkavic doesn't list the exhaust as fitting a XS2. As I figured I would have to make a bracket. I know the bolt looks kind of crappy. When I put the rear pegs on it I'll get a better looking bolt.
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    Next up was the Boyer ignition. It actually comes with a instruction sheet. http://www.boyerbransden.com/pdf/KIT00303.pdf
    The kit has almost everything you need to install it. Only thing you need not in the kit is Loctite.
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    You need red for the rotor end of the threaded rod. upload_2019-5-11_7-23-48.png
    Blue for the other end. Not real wild about the threaded rod and the way it just clamps everything to the cam, no pin to make sure nothing slips. Another problem is holding the rotor stationary when tightening the nut on the other end of the threaded rod. Best way I could figure out was to use a needle nose pliers to hold the rotor in place when tightening the nut. It worked.
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    Next up was mounting the coil. Instruction sheet was a bit vague on that. I ended up making a mount out of 1/2 inch key stock and made spacers for standoffs.
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    Mounted the blue box and wired thing up. If I was to do this again I would move the coil to the rear for more clearance between it and the blue box.
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    Plus it comes with red plug caps upload_2019-5-11_7-41-11.png
    Bike fired right up, got the timing set and went for a 10 mile ride. Ran every bit as well as it did with the PAMCO. Maybe even a little smoother. Need some better weather so I can go for longer rides.:rock:
    It did come with a sheet that had a web address for pics of how to mount the coil. I think their link is broken. I do not recommend trying to go there.
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  16. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    This is excellent news! I’m so happy your new Boyer installation went well! I’m sure it will be a very reliable ignition for you. Nice job with the coil mount too.
    That exhaust bracket looks like it was made for it. A good day! :thumbsup:
     
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  17. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    So, now that you’re out and about again, are you happy with the way it runs and rides? How about that pipe?
     
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  18. GLJ

    GLJ If you can't laugh at youself you shouldn't laugh Top Contributor

    Very happy with it. Everything seems to be working great. Breaks work fine, suspension as good or better than I remember, I think with the modern tires it handles better than it ever did, fixing the broken frame probably helped. :rolleyes:The motor is not completely broke in yet. I've only had it to 5 grand a couple of times, but between 1500 and 4000 it's got a lot of torque and very responsive. Not sure I have it in me to wind her up to 8000 plus any more. I'm sure I'll take the 38 tooth rear sprocket off and replace it with a 34 in the future. Not many Sporty's around to race anymore. All in all I coudn't be happier. Everything I did to it worked great. Except the PAMCO, a Boyer fixed that though. The pipe has a very nice sound, I do have a problem with clearance for the the kicker, looking at possible fixes for that. E-start works great so not a pressing problem.
     
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  19. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    That sounds great! I’ve noticed that suddenly my bike feels like it is accelerating a little harder and revving a little more freely, the motor feels like it’s bedding in. I’m curious if you are using your decompression release?
    I have my cable hooked up, but the adjustment backed off. It doesn’t seem to need it. It starts just as easily as my ‘77 does.
     
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  20. GLJ

    GLJ If you can't laugh at youself you shouldn't laugh Top Contributor

    I've never had it hooked up. In fact the cable was removed before I bought the bike. I remember asking my brother why the cable was missing when I bought the bike from him. He said that the local Yamaha shop said it wasn't needed. The bikes started better without it. The E-start has always worked fine. I was going to ask you if you had tried yours without it.
     
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