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Just out of curiosity - Airplane Guys

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Downeaster, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty What should I put here? XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    I didn't realize there were dirigible hangars in Oregon. I was briefly stationed at MCAS Santa Ana back in the day. I think those hangars had weather inside them.
     

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  2. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    From Wikipedia....
    During World War II, seventeen large hangars were built to house US Navy blimps. Today, eight of these wooden hangars still exist: Moffett Field (2), Tustin, California (2), Tillamook, Oregon (1), Lakehurst, New Jersey (2), and Weeksville, North Carolina (1).
     
  3. azman857

    azman857 '80 XS 650SG Rider XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    There's a Super Guppy here and an A-5 in The Pima Air and Space Museum.
     
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  4. Grimly

    Grimly XS650 Addict

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    I'd never have thought of the B29 as a small plane, but its wings look tiny on that thing.

    Cardington Hangars in Bedfordshire, England were the roosting place of the R101, iirc. Some ginourmous sheds indeed. Absolutely gob-smacking standing in them.

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  5. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Adding to the illusion of small, the wings have 15ft more span than the B-29... making them look even skinnier.
     
  6. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Here's another odd duck... the Laker Carvair. It was developed from a Douglas DC-4/C54 by Sir Freddie Laker in the early 60's to ferry cars and passengers across the Channel 'tween England and the rest of Europe.
    Funny story... one landed here at MCI (KC) and parked on the cargo ramp next to my jet. Was sometime in the late 90's iirc. No sooner than shutting down, and the nose tire blew with a loud boom whilst I was standing next to it. Didn't wet myself... but it was touch and go for a second there. :rolleyes:
    Crew called for a tire and mech, and headed for the barn. This thing was rough. Everywhere I looked on it there was corrosion and missing fasteners. :yikes: No way I'd climb aboard it... and I've flown on some pretty sketchy stuff back in the day.
    Bein' as it was odd to have a round engined cargo bird on the ramp, the feds dropped by to have a look see. Their faces be like... :yikes: ... and they promptly hung a "Not Airworthy" tag on the nose strut. Asked me if I knew where the crew was. Nope, I answered.

    About midnight this mechanic showed up and bummed my axle jack. I wasn't busy at the time so I drug it out there for him and we chatted wile he changed the nose tire. He saw the tag and I filled him in on what had transpired and what I knew of our local feds daily habits.... which he passed on to the crew.

    Next morning I saw the feds sitting off to the side in an unmarked car trying to blend in. Mech had given me his beeper # so I let him know what was up. He passed that along to the crew. 'Bout lunch time the feds were gettin' antsy and left for lunch. No sooner did they drive off than the crew walked out to the plane. They'd been hangin' out/hiding in one of the cargo bays. As they walked past the nose strut the engineer snatched the Not Airworthy tag off and they climbed aboard. In short order the blades started swingin' on #1... counted 20-30 blades and nary a puff from the ol' Pratt & Whitney. They tried #2 and she lit off in a huge cloud of smoke. Tried #1 again... no joy. The went to #3 and had a huge cloud in short order. Tried the recalcitrant #1 again.... nada. #4 huffed and puffed a few times then finally caught and settled into that loping idle that only a big round engine can make. 1# still refuses to even emit a fart out the stacks. #2 shuts off and engineer opens the overwing door, opens an access panel on the nacelle and fiddles around for a few minutes.... closes the panel and stands there scratchin' his head for a minute... finally he draws back and kicks the piss outta' the cowling, storms back down the wing and closes the door.

    Sumbich if the ol' Pratt didn't light right off. :lmao: In short order they had #2 turnin' again. By now almost a half hour had passed since the feds drove off. The engineer motioned at me from the main entry door and then pointed down to the stepladder. I started walkin' out there to hand it up to him when I heard him yell fu*k it and close the door. Pilot grabbed a handfull on all 4 and off they taxied, blowin' the ladder across the ramp. Out to the runway... no runup checks... just full power and off they went.

    'Bout 10 min later one of the feds walked into my office wanting to know what happened to the Laker. I just said "it left" ...stating the obvious. To this day I'm not sure why he asked me that nor what kind reply he expected. It left... what other explanation is there?

    I still have that ladder sittin' here in the garage. Sometimes I'll remember how it came to me and I'll chuckle a bit...


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  7. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty What should I put here? XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

  8. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

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  9. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty What should I put here? XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    If my memory serves me, there were two of those airplanes operating out of Griffin. I didn't live very far away. Those aircraft did not just blend into the scenery. People like us couldn't help but notice them.
     
  10. Raymond

    Raymond XS650 rider, fettler, setting out on a journey XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Knew a woman who told me when she was a schoolgirl, her Dad used to take them touring in Europe. They would pack the car with all the camping gear, drive down to an airfield in Kent, the car and a few others were loaded onto a plane, they flew across the Channel and landed at le Touquet? Well, northern France anyway, and drove off to the south of France. You can't do anything like that these days.
     
  11. Greyandridin

    Greyandridin Got nothing to do and all day to do it XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    There were a couple of foundations for a few other hangers there also
     
  12. fredintoon

    fredintoon Fred Hill, S'toon. Top Contributor

    Hi Raymondo,
    that'd be a Bristol Super-freighter, I used to build their engines. These days there's a tunnel.
     
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  13. azman857

    azman857 '80 XS 650SG Rider XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Was the Lakers Carvair the swingtail? Where the tail swung away to load the cars?
     
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  14. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty What should I put here? XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    No, I don’t think that thing could haul cars. They were hauling car parts in 1997. I don’t remember how it loaded.
     
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  15. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    The nose swung open, not the tail. And yes, it was designed to hold 15 cars. Hence the name Carvair. Googles logarithms are kinda spooky. No sooner did I write about the Carvair... this suggestion showed up in my YouTube suggestions... :cautious:
    Edit: My bad... it could hold 5 cars.

     
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  16. halfmile

    halfmile XS Builder XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

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    Is it just me or is the right wing longer (different)?? Today on the VFT
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  17. Raymond

    Raymond XS650 rider, fettler, setting out on a journey XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    That's pronounced dihedral. Di-hedral. /dʌɪˈhiːdr(ə)l/
     
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  18. Paul Sutton

    Paul Sutton Sprained Ankle Top Contributor

    Halfmile, the wing looks short but it is just the angle. Note how the red circle in the star is flattened. It is because the two wings do not lie in the same plain, Oops, that could be a potential pun leading to confusion.
     
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  19. GLJ

    GLJ Never go faster than your guardian angle can fly. Top Contributor

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  20. fredintoon

    fredintoon Fred Hill, S'toon. Top Contributor

    Hi halfmile,
    it sure looks that way but it's because the extreme telephoto lens has warped the photo..
     
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