Clogged vent in the gas cap?
Now that is one that I hadn't thought of....thanks Jeff.
Pete
Clogged vent in the gas cap?
Yesterday went for a ride. Stopped and took a few pics for Jim. The statue of Chief Blackhawk that overlooks the Rock River. A few months ago the tarps came off of it. It had a multi-year restoration. Almost 50 feet tall. Very well know landmark in the area.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Statue
From the rear.
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Yes I have Bob - and she’s given me more “stimulating” moments than a loose cheerleader at a drive-in movie.
I wish I could figure why, on nearly every ride longer than about an hour, she stumbles and f@rts and misses usually just for a few seconds but sometimes for a minute or two - and then clears up and runs strong again. She always starts willingly (although the hair clip needs a squeeze right now) and she idles fine and is ready to go as soon as I am - but that stumble always comes up an hour or so later - almost like I have run low on main and need to go on reserve - and then it’s over again with no action on my part.
Oh well - she has had a hard life as I’ve said before - or maybe she just wants to dominate me.
Pete,
Dude suggested blocked fuel cap vent. Had that problem once on Yamaha YDS7. Bloody thing would stutter, cough, stop. Like it had run out of fuel. Take the fuel cap off and look - plenty of fuel, so it would start again after a couple of kicks. Eventually diagnosed as blocked fuel cap vent - air rushed into tank as cap removed . . .
Years later, similar problem afflicted a Ducati. Set out for a ride, bike running just fine, sun in the sky, all's well with the world. Cough, splutter, nearly dies, we can't go on like this, pull over, engine stops. Check fuel - plenty. After a few minutes, bike starts readily and carries on just fine. It was a new bike so consulted the Ducati dealer - Snells in Alton, a lovely little family-run independent - who told me it was carb icing. Even on a hot day, the venturi cooling effect was freezing the water content in fuel, blocking the carb jets. The Ducati solution, which worked, was an ugly rat's nest of braided lines routing hot oil on it's way to the oil cooler through a specially-designed float chamber to warm the fuel.
Like the rest of Tucson, I have a front row seat to this sad spectacle. It started out in the center section and it's been working it's way east due to the seasonal winds. Last week was really windy which did not help. Most mornings it looks like it's about out and by 2 pm its all back to full bore aflame. At night you see the red/yellow lines of the fire and the glow from the out of sight valleys. Almost like the replay of the '03 Aspen fire which took out Summerhaven and Ski Valley. Both locations rebuilt but you can still see the scars on some of the surviving trees and the decomposing ones.Thanks Mailman..Its so hot that i would be fartin' dust out there in convection oven land... Sad to see Arizona on fire..The Bighorn fire has been burning for 2 weeks already..All they can do is try to keep structures from catching fire...But it is devastating the mountains...The Catalinas have always been my playground...
Quick method of ruling out the gas cap vent clog possibility:yup - I am going to check that out just as soon as I get a little further down Cathie’s honey-do list.
I recall this 1600 VW bug engine I built in the early 80's with an aftermarket Skat intake manifold and Weber 2 barrel; the throat south of the carb would ice up even on warm days, absolutely perplexing me. There was no Google at the time to search out what this phenomenon was.I'm more inclined to think it's carb ice as Raymond suggests. A plugged tank vent wouldn't fix itself "on the fly" as Pete says his bike does... cough sputter... recover.
Contrary to how it was explained to Raymond, it's moisture in the air, not the fuel that causes carb ice. The two main reasons are the pressure drop in the venturi and the evaporative cooling effect from the fuel being atomized.... think swamp cooler here.
Per the Combined Gas Laws, a drop in pressure gives a corresponding (and linear) drop in temperature. Since the dew point of air varies with temp, a drop in pressure can drop the temp below the dew point and allow the moisture in the air to form droplets. If the temp drop is large enough, those droplets turn into ice... disrupting air flow and sometimes plugging fuel jets... sputtering and popping follows.
When the sputtering starts, the instinctive (and sometimes subconscious) reaction is to add throttle. This raises pressure in the venturi... which also raises the temperature... back above the dew point and above the freezing point. Within seconds, the ice starts to melt away... the engines emits a huge fart , dislodging the remaining ice and normal operation returns.
All this can occur on a warm sunny day if the right conditions of temperature, pressure and humidity exist. On carbereted aircraft, there's a "Carb Heat" knob right next to the throttle. This diverts the incoming air across the exhaust manifold prior to entering the carb.... 100° hotter air than ambient. The POH tells you to pull carb heat on anytime you reduce power for descent. It gives no exceptions for higher temps. I've experienced carb ice turning downwind to base (yeah... forgot to pull the heat on ) It gets your undivided attention. Pulling the heat knob and adding power lets the engine recover almost immediately.
As infrequently as it happens Pete... I'd just live with it.
the Triumph Bonneville on the right; that's the bike that is now in my living room)
I have friends that live at Ventana canyon according to the news the fire would run out of fuel if it goes that way and ground crews can get a better handle on it..but without any significant rain in the forecast...I also have friends who were to told to evacuate their cabin in Spencer canyon..same as with the Aspen fire in 2003..Their property was spared last time..not sure whats going on now.. i have some other friends in Tucson on FB and they have been posting their pics almost daily...Trying to find up to date news is frustrating because i dont have Tucson TV stations and online their news service is way behind...I fear all the old growth forests that are so beautiful are gone..so much heavy smoke i have seen..that means alot of pine trees...I used to hike out of Summerhaven down to Marshall Gulch..out the Aspen Trail and then the Wilderness of rocks Tr...I recall huge old trees some dead and fallen across the Aspen Tr..climbing over a 5' diameter trunk of a pine tree...I cant imagine that even survived the Aspen fire...sorry to ramble..but this one has just made my heart sink....Like the rest of Tucson, I have a front row seat to this sad spectacle. It started out in the center section and it's been working it's way east due to the seasonal winds. Last week was really windy which did not help. Most mornings it looks like it's about out and by 2 pm its all back to full bore aflame. At night you see the red/yellow lines of the fire and the glow from the out of sight valleys. Almost like the replay of the '03 Aspen fire which took out Summerhaven and Ski Valley. Both locations rebuilt but you can still see the scars on some of the surviving trees and the decomposing ones.
The heat had brought out lots of pretty girls in skimpy outfits at Skaneateles Lake Park.