need advice on buying a couple bikes... are they worth it

[SLYrider491]

Hey guys im a proud owner of a 80 special bobber daily rider. i love it but i cant say that i built it , i just brought it back to being road worthy.

i wanna get a ground up project going so i could make one how i want it. i also want something i can tear into to learn more about these bikes without being rushed . plus the extra parts for my bike would be nice to have

anyways theirs a guys locally selling two xs650's.

he says one is a 81 with title, basket case, and needs the top end rebuilt.

the other he says is a 83 with a homemade hardtail (he bought it that way) also has title and doesnt run.

he is asking $675 for both

any input would be highly appreciated

thanks

thought i would ask what you guys thought.

 

[650Skull]

The basket case looks to be a 77 Standard with, (hard to tell on such small pics), a 16"rear wheel. How can i tell, rear foot-peg mounts, rear indicator mounts, metal side-covers and front 35mm forks and the mufflers are from the 76-79 Standard.

The hard tail has the gazillion spoke wheels that started in 82 so may be what he says it is.

2 titled frames would be worth near what the asking price is, a Good buy in my mind

 

[SLYrider491]

ya i was thinking that even if i kept one to play with and sell or part out the other it should be worth it .

thanks for letting me know the id on the bikes great info

 

[nj1639]

Yeah, good deal if you have the mad money to spend.

 

[jd750ace]

If ya got the cash and the storage space, around 50 cents per CC for titled junkers is a good deal.

 

[member3480]

If you are buying to keep good deal
If you are buying to sell better deal
Frame with title $350 each
Motor not seized can go as much as $400 each
Wheels $50 each
Carbs $50 each
I can go on and on
GREAT DEAL

 

[SLYrider491]

Thanks for the advice guys I'm gonna try to go look at them today or tomorrow

 

[SLYrider491]

so i found out some more info about the bikes
he is swapping both set of wheels for one set of sr500 mag wheels with new tires.

sucks i know

also the bike behind the hard tail isnt the second bike ... and i dont have photos

basically second bike is literally a basket case has frame engine with blown top end no carbs all titled on non op
still asking 700

or 1000 and he has a complete cylinder and piston topend kit from mikesxs.com


so...
2 frames 1 hardtail 1 stock
2 engines 1 needing topend 1 said to crank over
1 set of mag wheels from sr500
1 set of carbs from the 83
bunch of misc parts


still worth 700?

 

[Scrambled]

Depends on wheather you want a hobby or if you want a motorcycle to ride . I personaly would rather spend a few $$$$ more and start a project with a running bike , something that is plated and on the road. At least that way you wont have to rebuild the engine , find carbs, and all of the rotten wiring that goes with basket cases.

Just my opinion, sometimes you have to spend a buck to save a buck.

 

[650Skull]

If he sent you that pic leading you to believe that is what you are getting and now the deal has changed, offer him $100 or walk away

 

[gggGary]

Bet the deal will change some more when you get there. i wouldn't travel till I had acurate pictures and description. Then again I just mailed a $325 check for a 77 barn find with title that I have not seen, not even a picture, from a guy I have never met and have to drive 4 hours each way to get. Might be able to pick it up in a couple of weeks.

 

[SLYrider491]

ya im just looking for a hobby i have a daily driver already but i didnt built it just got it street legal and ridable....im gonna make sure i get pictures of everything before i commit to looking at it and or buying . and im definitly not gonna pay asking price unless he throws topend kit with it. then ill pay 700


anyone in southern cali got a better deal let me know

 

[5twins]

The SR500 wheels won't really do you any good. The front will work but the rear won't. Don't know why he made that trade unless it was to a buddy. All the wheels he traded were definitely worth more than the 2 he got.

 

[SLYrider491]

well i talked to him on the phone and basically, i think he just wanted to keep the spoked rims for something else and he has a couple sr500s lying around( also on his CL ad) and thought they would swap..... so the wheels wont even work on a xs650 as a set ?

 

[SLYrider491]

Why won't the sr500 rear wheel work exactly so I can tell him why and hopefully he throws the spokes back on ? Thanks for te help guys

 

[GreasyC]

sr500 is 17mm rear axle I believe. XS is 20mm. Not likely to be the same width either.

 

[650Skull]

The sprocket mounting and sprockets are different, can get conversion kits but they are expensive.

 

[member3480]

Here is what i would offer and do. If its not too far go there with MONEY CASH!!! Check out the important parts Motor /Frames/Titles Thats your money. If numbers match to titles offer low like $500.00 for both and tell him to keep the wheel and the difference in price is the wheels $250.00 off price becausae you need to get wheels. If you get these parts anywhere near $600.00 for both with matching titles you got $1000.00 plus in parts for resale for another bike if you don't want the challange to build. I wish this guy was closer to me i would offer the $500.00 and just sell the parts on EBAY. I don't agree with just the phone calls because he may be sitting on something else at his home that may sweeten the deal. I am not saying it happens all the time but i went to buy a XS650 and the guy had a very rare CB750 100 code and i made tons of money off that bike and only paid under $500.00 for a bike restored that pulls $25,000.00 or more. I sold it for parts and made big bucks. Also Honda CB450 up to CB750 are 20mm axles too same wheels used them on a couple XS builds i did. Axles longer than xs good for wider wheel conversions.
GO LOOK MAKE THE DEAL...

 

[SLYrider491]

Alright well I've tried a couple times to go look at these bikes and guy keeps falling through. It's a good deal but Its hard to get ahold of the guy I'm gonna keep trying but until then , the search continues what do you guys think about this ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271056829472?redirect=mobile

I havent heard much about 83's. And if there a good candidate for bobber ? This guy is right around the corner from my house is it worth 800 ? Better deal ? I've requested more info .


Also there's a big motorcycle swap meet this weekend in long beach. Should I hold off and see what's there . I haven't ever been to it or talked to anyone thats been , but it looks like a pretty legit swap meet.

http://www.socalcycleswapmeet.com/


Anyone on here been ?

Thank for all the help

 

[SLYrider491]

So the two bikes ended up getting sold for 1400 idk how but that's what I was told ...

So what do u guys think about eBay bike I'm gonna go check it out tomorrow.

It's titled . Said to have good compression needs battery and it doesn't have the keys

I think he said it will start . Only talked to him via text so far.

Let me kno what you guys think