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Need some help with stuck wheel bearing - the old one I was using to seat the new one

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by JayR, Jan 19, 2015.

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  1. JayR

    JayR XS650 Addict

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    I was following the steps from a thread on rear wheel bearing replacement. I Was doing OK until I got to the step to use the old large bearing to seat the new large bearing.

    The problem is that I can't get the old bearing out now. The thread I was reading said to remove it with a vice-grips and pulling and tugging.

    But - it won't budge.

    Other than punching out the new bearings and starting over (damaging new bearings) does anyone have any advice on how to get the old bearing out?

    Lesson learned - should have bought the bearing seating tool.

    Thanks for any thoughts you may have....
     

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  2. TwoManyXS1Bs

    TwoManyXS1Bs BBQ Hunter Top Contributor

    Hoo, boy. A little heat around the flange might help.

    And some large slip-joint pliers...
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  3. JayR

    JayR XS650 Addict

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    Thanks 2 Many. I had to pound it out from the other end. Need new bearings. Was a disaster from the start, All Balls sent me the wrong grease seal for the small bearing and had to mangle that back out too. Spent hours reading up on it. Oh well I'll get it done the next time :

    I will caution to not use the old large bearing to drive home the new one as recommended in post #23 of this thread. It led to install failure for me. The method worked well for the original poster, but removal of the old bearing was not possible for me, and I approached it a few different ways. Just my 2 cents.

    http://www.xs650.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7201&page=2
     

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  4. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Grab the angle grinder, cut through the old bearing BEFORE using it as a driver....
     
  5. YamadudeXS650C

    YamadudeXS650C Central New York XS650 XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Great idea, gggGary. I'm going to use that method this week on my bearings.
     
  6. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Too bad I didn't think of this sooner, the OP could have done that to the top of that bearing; cut a slot at an angle rapped the slot with a chisel, the rest of the race would crack through and it would have come right out. Common way to remove a sleeve or race stuck on a shaft.
     
  7. JayR

    JayR XS650 Addict

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    Dang...good idea

    Double dang. I was laying my grinder into it, didn't know that trick. Thanks though I'll file it away - hopefully won't need it for the redo! :bike:
     
  8. The technique I used was to grind the outer face of the old bearing on a bench sander/grinder until it was a slightly smaller outside diameter. It could then be lifted out by hand after seating the new bearing.
     
  9. chizler62

    chizler62 XS650 Addict

    you can actually go to most auto parts places nowadays and get tools on loan. Or an over the pond bearing driver set is around $30.
     
  10. Signal

    Signal XS650 Junkie Top Contributor

    Well you have it out now but this idea may help others. Wind a dyna bolt (expandable bolt used for fixing to concrete) in the bearing you want to remove. Then drive the bolt out from the other side.
     
  11. peanut

    peanut XS650 enthusiast & inveterate tinkerer Top Contributor

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    make sure that they have supplied the correct dust cup . I would compare your old with the new, for width.

    There are two widths and I was supplied with the incorrect thicker dust cup for my 79 rear hub which completely jammed my wheel once it was all tightened up. :banghead:
     
  12. I know you already have the bearing out but something that usually works pretty good is to weld something over the hole in the bearing, then put a drift thru the wheel from the other side and and then you can smack it out without touching the new bearing
     
  13. AG650

    AG650 XS650 Enthusiast

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    Exactly what I was going to say hooligan.....many times I have welded a 5/8 nut to the old bearing and screwed in a 1ft pc of 5/8 all thread from the other side and tapped it out. This also works with bearings in blind holes.......... i just use it as a slide hammer and pull it out rather than push.
     
  14. JayR

    JayR XS650 Addict

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    You guys are good. Thanks for sharing the tips and tricks of the trade, as a hobby guy I have a lot to learn.

    Peanut - i also received the incorrect small grease cover. It was green and metal but s/b rubbery plastic and metal. After installing it I knew it was wrong so I had to blow that up too.

    The pencil is pointing to the destroyed wrong cover. The original is on the right. I know I should have checked first! I'm usually not such a flipping hack, but hey I had a bad day :)
     

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  15. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    I rarely replace the grease seals. If you're careful with the removal you can just reuse them. The best way is not to remove them at all but rather let the bearing push them out as you drive it out.
     

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