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Painting Tins. No really...

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Jim, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. Candy green and white a la XS1

    10 vote(s)
    35.7%
  2. Candy gold and white a la XS1

    11 vote(s)
    39.3%
  3. Candy red and white a la XS2

    7 vote(s)
    25.0%
  1. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge, is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Take Two. :rolleyes:
    OK, so... here we go. Painting for dummies. I'm gonna detail the steps involved in painting. Here's the tank we're using. It has a single vacuum petcock on the left side, so 80 something Special? Inside is clean as a whistle. Maybe one or two very light spots of rust but no pitting. A few minor dings here and there but overall good and straight.

    tank1.jpg

    tank2.jpg

    Here's the bad. The existing paint.

    tank3.jpg

    It goes on forever. At least 4 coats that I could see.... with prolly a quart of primer 'tween each coat. What a mess. :poo:
    I've learned from experience that when it's this bad, stripper just turns it into a messy goo. So I drug out the 3" disks (#60) for the die grinder and went to town. This little bitty tank took about a dozen disks. With that aggressive a grit, as soon as I started to see metal, I stopped. Once it was down to the last layer, I switch to red rolok disks and took it all the way to metal.

    tank5.jpg

    Too late tonight, so tomorrow I'll use some stripper to finish off the little nooks and crannies. At least now it'll be a manageable amount of goo.

    tank6.jpg

    EDIT: All suggestions on different/better ways to do things are most welcome.

    Bonus video: How to open a tank cap without a key.

     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2019
  2. thuban

    thuban Horse Scratcher

    I'm looking forward to this! :) ( My tank is finished and ready to be installed but, but, but... )
     
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  3. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    Well this looks like fun! And by the way, that gas cap video was a new one on me! Thanks! :)
     
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  4. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    So with the lead up (building a paint "room") This is jinormous!
    Cap; yeah good video!
    Did a standard the other day, ended up pushing back on the spring loaded "hook" latch with an L bent windshield wiper stainless strip, the standard caps sit a bit lower And that flat under the key wouldn't move back enough to lease the catch.
     
  5. Beags64

    Beags64 XS650 Junkie Top Contributor

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  6. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge, is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Plan B.
    Wasn't too keen on the messy goo route. It fit in the bead blaster cabinet. Definitely a tight squeeze... but it fit.

    bead blast 2.jpg

    bead blast1.jpg
     
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  7. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge, is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    And now, time for something completely different...

    Marked out the centerline and marked the edges I want....

    centerline.jpg

    Found some cord aprox. 3/16" in dia. and taped to the edge mark and other line I marked.

    cord on edges.jpg

    And commenced to puttying.

    first bondo..jpg


    Added another coat of Bondo and repeated the process on the other side. Once dry I got busy block sanding.


    sanding.jpg


    Periodically I'd measure and adjust the sanding to keep everything symmetrical. Kept the lines within a mm.


    measure.jpg


    Once I had 'em to the shape I wanted, applied the Bondo to the edges.


    second bondo.jpg


    Pulled the tape, let it cure and went back to sanding.


    more sanding.jpg


    I'm almost there... phew... The reason I've got the sharp edges is because it's easier to measure from an edge than a curve. Once I'm happy with the shape and symmetry, I'll break the edges into nice smooth rounded curves.

    In case you haven't caught on :rolleyes:, I'm trying to replicate the look of an XS1 tank.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2019
  8. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge, is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Color poll added at top.
     
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  9. gggGary

    gggGary Stop that! XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Brilliant! :cheers:

    Mess with their heads, candy PURPLE and white.
    Like this but reverse the purple and the white
    cs5.jpg
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2019
  10. thuban

    thuban Horse Scratcher

    Interesting. Really cool. But how do you do all that sanding and not get a speck of dust on your bike? :umm:
     
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  11. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge, is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Blowgun. ;)
     
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  12. Beags64

    Beags64 XS650 Junkie Top Contributor

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  13. Jake650

    Jake650 XS650 Addict XS650.com Supporter

    Jim, great idea for a thread and looking forward to learning more.
     
  14. Scripto VU

    Scripto VU Dukes Speed and Custom

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    You, Signal, Mailman and many other members totally enrich this site and keep me coming back with your posts.

    Art is an understanding that there is something more behind what is physically represented. ( compassion, skill, knowledge, experience, on and on....love it)
     
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  15. willis

    willis xsive compulsive disorder XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    I voted candy gold, but also love the orange/black/gold combo too. That one seems a bit more obscure.
     
  16. beano

    beano XS650 Enthusiast

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    Same, voted gold but would have voted for the orange/black "jaffa" scheme if it was there.
     
  17. MrBultaco

    MrBultaco it ran before being parked Top Contributor

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    Great build you got going there Jim. Is this a tank for your speed twin?
    ps: I like the sharp edges...:)
     
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  18. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    I voted for the gold, always my favorite of the candy colors. I had to search for his thread, but forum member IPA62,
    Shot this himself, with Spraymax custom blended paint. But my point is, this not a clear candy over a silver base, it is House of Kolor “Solar Gold” Two coats color and four coats clear. I was amazed he could achieve this look without the traditional candy over silver.

    http://www.xs650.com/threads/side-cover-trim-xs1-xs1b-xs2.51250/page-2#post-540204

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  19. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    Oh and I forgot to mention, I’m really digging what you’re doing here. Good stuff! :)
     
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  20. jetmechmarty

    jetmechmarty XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    Doug Whitaker has a Special that is painted as an XS-1. It's a beautiful bike. I searched, but can't find a photo of it.
     
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