PAMCO Electronic advance

[pamcopete]

gggGary,

Here is the curve for the CB450 which shows a starting advance of 5 degrees and a total of 35 degrees of advance for a max advance of 40 degrees.

The XS650 is similar except for the starting and ending degrees vs RPM.

 

[Street Tracker]

Tim and Donny,

Just as the PAMCO was designed to replace the points, the new advance is designed to simply replace the advancer. There is no improvement per se in performance, but my experience so far with the XS650 and the CB450 is a much smoother advance as observed with the timing light and "seat of the pants" testing.

Exactly what I am looking for the simpler the better for me, did not really want to have to buy a mechanical advance and then have to mess with it. I greatly appreciate this electronic advance thanks again Pete.

 

[gggGary]

Kewl! Thanks Pete.

 

[sbaugz]

So what do you mean by a first quarter release on this? I am actually getting ready to buy a pamco for my 1981 but I would obviously prefer to wait for the fully electronic version so I don't have to buy all the mechanical stuff to go along with it.
I Am hoping to have one in next month ?

 

[Tim of DO THE TON]

This unit will work with the current Pamco ignition.

The current ignition replaces the mechanical points with a magnet/hall sensor arrangement for reliable no-maintenance operation. It still uses the mechanical advance setup on the other end of the cam.

This new little electronic box will replace that with a programmed advance curve.

You're in Wisconsin - you won't be riding anytime soon I'd hang tight and wait. Either buy the Pamco ignition now and wait on the advance or just wait for an all-in-one kit (might save a couple bucks?).

 

[2poler]

I have the setup from Mikes xs in a box for my 83 uninstalled. Will the new version still need the TCI unit?

 

[chief01]

Pete - Any update on the advance unit?

 

[bowser]

Pete - Any update on the advance unit?

also, will you need to run a battery to use this?

 

[andyxs]

Wait for this or get an advance rod hmmm.....

 

[Tim of DO THE TON]

You'll still need the rod to mount the Pamco hall sensor setup unless you modify it to be more like the boyer which uses a threaded rod in place of the stock advance rod.

 

[andyxs]

: Doh : Guess I didn't think that through Tim

 

[Tim of DO THE TON]

Well I'd guess Pete will be including some sort of instructions on how to disable the mechanical advance, locking the sensor wheel to the camshaft in place.

The Boyer does this simply with a stepped bronze bushing that goes in the advance end of the cam, a threaded rod which the magnet wheel mounts to with red locktite (no pin to keep it in place just loctite) and a spring washer and nut on the end with the bushing. Just cinch it down tight and it stays put spinning with the cam.

So, presumably you could put a threaded rod in the advance rods place if you could fix the Pamco magnet wheel to the rod at that end.

Advance rods aren't too hard to come by - I'd hang tight till Pete comes out with the advance kit and see what the scoop is. He might offer up a similar kit to the Boyer for those people without a points setup at all.

 

[andyxs]

Yeah, I'm going to wait. I can't do any riding now anyways. Just a tad bit too cold in central New York

 

[gggGary]

wondering minds...........
update report????????????

 

[Ironriot]

Bump for an update! I'd like to spend my money on this

 

[Johnt3]

Pamcopete, Have you made anymore progress on your advance unit?
Who are the lucky souls doing the road testing for you?

 

[chief01]

I too am waiting in hopes that it will be available soon so I can complete my cafe

 

[pamcopete]

Well, what little road testing we were able to do over the past few weeks went OK. Right now I am working on some start up issues, especially low battery starts and kick starts. I think it will not be released any sooner than mid to end of April.

 

[Royboy]

The pressure is on Pete. I want this stuff. The advance is the missing link. I'll buy it the minute you say it's good to go.

roy

 

[peanut]

as soon as you've finished the electronic advance Pete could you make us some gears ?....and a fork brace and ......

Just kiddin. We are extremely grateful that you are giving up so much time and energy for our benefit and its ready when its ready