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question about braided brake lines

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by bluesman650, Jun 10, 2018.

  1. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    It depends on the height of the bars you're using. 90cm is pretty much perfect for slightly lower than stock bars (Euro or Superbike bars).
     
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  2. Paul Sutton

    Paul Sutton Silent but Deadly Top Contributor

    Back in Entry 48 Fredintoon mentioned about legal requirements for two independent braking systems on a motorcycle. I found the following document which covers this aspect:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.122a

    The section of interest is S5. There are some exceptions but not being from the USA this document does not mean at lot to me with regard to where it applies etc etc......

    Perhaps this is something to be aware of ?????
     
  3. cafetools

    cafetools XS650 Addict

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    Thanks, I had a feeling that the 100cm line I ordered for my euro bars was going to be too long.
     
  4. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    I had a slightly too long line on mine for quite a while. I dealt with the extra length by routing the line over to the far left behind the headlight before sending it down towards the caliper .....

    [​IMG]

    I also fabbed up a little guide for it to pass through. This mounts on the lower tree where the old two line junction block used to go .....

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. cafetools

    cafetools XS650 Addict

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    Another question. Are black "stainless" lines just as good? Is there really stainless braids in there or is it inferior somehow? I'm about to order a 90cm but I want black.
     
  6. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    The color is usually just a plastic coating or sleeve over the outside. All these lines are silver braided stainless steel, or at least I think they are. I would search for one that specifically says it's braided stainless. I noticed some of these don't say that. I suppose that could mean they're just braided nylon or something over the inner hose. Look for something like this .....

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/60cm-90cm-...m=282887082812&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

    To be D.O.T. approved, a stainless line needs the plastic cover on it. Uncovered, the braided surface is rather rough. It will act like a file if rubbing against something, eventually "filing" or cutting into it. In our case, that would most likely be wiring looms.
     
  7. cafetools

    cafetools XS650 Addict

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    I just read an old post someone said.... This makes me want to try a 80cm now.
     
  8. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    This is a 90cm (35.4") with Euro bars. An 80cm line would be 4" shorter and I don't think that would be long enough .....

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. XSLeo

    XSLeo XS650 Guru

    From What I have seen black covered lines cost more than clear colored lines.
    I had clear lines and to make them black I used heat shrink tubing. Harbor Freight has packages of several sizes that are rolls 48 " long.
    Cut to size and shrink on.
    They don't look exactly like rubber lines but close enough from 20'.
    Leo
     
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  10. JAX71224

    JAX71224 jax71224

    HOLY SMOKES!!!! A LOT of stuff there. So mine is apparently not in compliance but it works pretty well and has for several years so NOT gonna change anything. Also those standards are for manufacturers to comply with and I'll bet a roadside pull-over by a cop would not include any such inspection even though the foot pedal is removed from the XS! But admittedly it would be tough to defend in a court case where bodily injury or death occurred..............
     
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  11. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    Put a "dummy" pedal on it, there but not connected to anything.
     
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  12. fredintoon

    fredintoon Fred Hill, S'toon. Top Contributor

    Hi JAX,
    not unless the cop was really out to get you, eh? Perhaps you'd be OK in court if you put the rear brake pedal back on?
    The law sez it's gotta be there, is all.
     
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