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Stella - 1977D survivor, back on the road.

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by DanielBlack, Sep 24, 2016.

  1. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    Very nice! I'm so glad that Stella is being her sweet self again! Good work!
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  2. TwoManyXS1Bs

    TwoManyXS1Bs BBQ Hunter Top Contributor

    Things like that keep me up at night.

    Strange as it may seem, I've also experienced the improved performance of freshly cleaned machinery...
  3. MaxPete

    MaxPete Lucille, Betty & Demi - I suggest but THEY decide. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Yup - me too TwoMany. Clean stuff just works better somehow.

    ...now, if I could just stay off the damned airplanes long enough to polish Lucille’s engine cases, maybe she and I could go for a ride sometime....

    Stella looks superb Daniel - really nice job.

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  4. YamadudeXS650C

    YamadudeXS650C Central New York XS650 XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Ah, yes, the Hot Shower Fix. So effective that it should be in the Tech section.
    Didn't work out so well for Janet Leigh, but it can be a cure-all.
  5. DanielBlack

    DanielBlack XS650 Junkie

    I've never been a fan of the billet alternator cover. Of the three items I was hoping for when I responded to the vague parts ad, this cover is the one item I got. So much better!

    IMG_20171105_170044893.jpg IMG_20171105_170628605.jpg IMG_20171105_170747939.jpg IMG_20171105_171004111.jpg
    *Simple Green and a gray Scotchbrite
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2017
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  6. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    Oh yeah! That's SO much better. Good score on that.

    PS, you're right , I'm jealous!
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  7. robinc

    robinc Member of the 'yellow meter gang' Top Contributor

    Very nice Daniel. I think it looks much better too. Good job.
  8. Are those shocks stock ? Oh, I see you've upgraded now.
  9. DanielBlack

    DanielBlack XS650 Junkie

    Progressive 14 Series. They're a whole lot better than the shot stockers they replaced, but I can't compare to other aftermarket options.
  10. DanielBlack

    DanielBlack XS650 Junkie

    Back in October I had done some clutch work on Stella. All in all, a huge improvement. Adjustment of the shifter pawl solved my issue of slipping out of second. New friction plates got rid of a stutter on take-off. While I was in there I tightened the spring on the starter gear and can now enjoy using that little black button without all the racket.

    All good stuff, but I knew I wasn't done in there. I hadn't smoothed the sharp edges of the steel plates. I didn't like using the stock spring screws without a sure torque value. And most bothersome of all was that even though the stock springs all measured more than ok by length, I was experiencing some slip. I should have listened to 5t's recommendation of replacing the stock springs.

    So, with another 1000 miles on the odo and a periodic maintenance scheduled for the weekend, I decided it was time to go in again.

    Here's the inner clutch hub as I checked to be sure my modded stock spacers (thanks Pete!) and 40mm screws weren't too long. Everything in the right half of this photo is stock, left half new. These are EBC CSK14's. Clearly stronger than the stockers. The 40mm screw on the left could use another mm or two, but the key is that they aren't too long.


    One might think the socket head might be too tall as they are much taller than the stock JIS head, but there's plenty of room for them.
    IMG_20180224_115111441.jpg IMG_20180224_115134769.jpg

    All's buttoned up now and ready for a test drive. There's definitely more force on the clutch lever; we'll see how that plays out in normal riding, can't say I'm thrilled about it in stop-and-go traffic.
  11. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    If it turns out to be too stiff for you, you can try 3 new and 3 old springs, alternating their placement around the hub. When's the last time you oiled the clutch cable? They need it about once a year.
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  12. DanielBlack

    DanielBlack XS650 Junkie

    That's a good tip.

    The cable was well oiled with 90wt gear oil in October. It's not unbearably stiff, just a noticable difference with the new springs.
  13. gggGary

    gggGary I'm listening, change my mind XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    cool, nice write up! I just ordered Barnett springs for madness. When I opened it I had three HD springs that were awful long and three stock springs. It would still slip when it hit the cam at 5G I also did an ippytattoo 8 plate conversion Then I did a bit of work at the perch. Clutch lever pivot bushing It'll be awhile and there's more to do before it hits the road.
    hmm this sounds like thread tromping but just sharing a bit of clutch head scratching, a popular activity.
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2018
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  14. MaxPete

    MaxPete Lucille, Betty & Demi - I suggest but THEY decide. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Looks great Daniel - and so glad those old clutch screws->>>New clutch screw washer/spacers worked out. I truly enjoyed that little machining job - it took me back to my roots in the mold shop!

    Tomorrow morning I am heading out to my semi-monthly vintage bike group breakfast meeting - hopefully n my SV650!

    Stella is looking very smart BTW - safe riding!

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  15. robinc

    robinc Member of the 'yellow meter gang' Top Contributor

    Daniel, nice job!
    Am interested to hear your test drive report.

    Pete, we'll need some pics of her first trip eh!
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  16. MaxPete

    MaxPete Lucille, Betty & Demi - I suggest but THEY decide. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Oooohhhhhyeah - as long as my camera finger isn’t too frozen.

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  17. DanielBlack

    DanielBlack XS650 Junkie

    Smart? Ha! This poor gal is in what I like to call 'daily commuter trim'.

    Just for you, Robin, I took a quick spin around the neighborhood. 'Flickable' shifting, neutral exactly where it should be and easily found, and zero slip with shifts at 5500. The real test will likely be the commute on Monday.
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  18. robinc

    robinc Member of the 'yellow meter gang' Top Contributor

    Hey Daniel, next time you pull the carbs ya get out your buffer, bada boom bada bing, a little carb bling.

    Thanks for the ride report. Good news buddy! Installing those springs waiting in one of my parts boxes is on the list. Keep us posted after a few miles on your commute.
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  19. MaxPete

    MaxPete Lucille, Betty & Demi - I suggest but THEY decide. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    ...and did it wheelie when you shifted at 5500 RPM Daniel?
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  20. MrBultaco

    MrBultaco it ran before being parked Top Contributor

    Now, Pete, I just pissed my pants with that remark...........

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