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Why No Mention of Sump Filter in Owner's Manual?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by ramblin5, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. ramblin5

    ramblin5 XS650 Enthusiast XS650.com Supporter

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    Okay, so I just read through 200 of the 420 threads on Sump filters trying to see if anyone addressed this question and don't see a discussion on it. "Why doesn't the owner's manual for my '81 SH mention anything about the sump filter needing to be checked/replaced periodically?" All it addresses is the regular oil drain plugs and filter. If the sump filter should be checked/cleaned/replaced periodically I would think it would be included in the maintenance schedule in the manual.

    If it weren't for this forum I wouldn't even know there was a sump filter.
     
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  2. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    I think it's not mentioned because Yamaha considered it a dealer-serviced item. It's mentioned in the copy of the '72 owner's manual I have and that's how they describe it - "..... should be removed and cleaned by your dealer .....".
     
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  3. 59Tebo

    59Tebo 59Tebo Top Contributor

    (read between the lines as) "...ripped sump filter should be replaced by your dealer and billed as labor." :laugh:
     
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  4. azman857

    azman857 '80 XS 650SG Rider Top Contributor

    With replaced sump filter, wouldn't that be "parts and labor"? More $$ for the stealer, err dealership.
     
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  5. 59Tebo

    59Tebo 59Tebo Top Contributor

    Naaaah. Just pad the bill as "labor". You wouldn't want anybody to know that a design flaw(?) results in 99 and 44/100ths% of filters tearing in virtually the same place, right? :shrug: :wtf: We know better. So we patch with metal, and J-B Weld, and hope it holds. I saw a sump filter from Heiden tuning that looks promising...
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  6. Ozboy

    Ozboy XS650 Addict

    I have the filter from Heiden Tuning and seems great so far.
     
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  7. cafetools

    cafetools XS650 Addict

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    Is that Heiden tubing filter the bees knees? My 650 has been a good girl to me and I'm thinking sge deserves some protection...
     
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  8. Ozboy

    Ozboy XS650 Addict

    Not sure on 'bees knees' but I was thinking the same giving my old girl some better protection. Crazy no filter modifications we done on a 50 year old problem never fixed by the factory or even mentioned. Not even after market filters have the patch on them.
     
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  9. Beags64

    Beags64 XS650 Addict Top Contributor

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    Stock filters tearing & the fact that a brand new Fuji replacement has a spot where the adhesive missed (hole right out of the package) is what prompted this...
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    Time will tell.
     
  10. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    Is that something you made?
     
  11. cafetools

    cafetools XS650 Addict

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    Does Heiden ship to the USA? Approx how much would that sump filter be?
     
  12. Beags64

    Beags64 XS650 Addict Top Contributor

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    Just my take on the Heiden ones and other similar ones. Filter from Fleabay, SS replacement for a few different KTM models.
    If it works out would like to able to offer them up as an alternative for folks.
     
  13. Greyandridin

    Greyandridin Got nothing to do and all day to do it XS650.com Supporter

    how much?
     
  14. Greyandridin

    Greyandridin Got nothing to do and all day to do it XS650.com Supporter

    I might be interested
     
  15. Beags64

    Beags64 XS650 Addict Top Contributor

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    Guess I better get my poop in a group, had a few people express some interest.
     
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  16. Jim

    Jim I have a plan. It's something to deviate from. Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    I'd be interested Beags.
     
  17. Beags64

    Beags64 XS650 Addict Top Contributor

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    A few pics of the prototype
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  18. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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  19. Beags64

    Beags64 XS650 Addict Top Contributor

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    Same fitment. The one I got was from a different seller - $10 w/free shipping
     
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  20. MaxPete

    MaxPete Life with Lucille...I suggest, she decides. Top Contributor XS650.com Supporter

    Looks really nice Beags.
     

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