Led Blinkers (that work) but led turn signal indicator in center column.

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I just got done putting blinkers back on my 650. Went with led bulbs in the entire chain including the one that flashes in the center console indicator. I also got the blinker relay from superbrightled.com. I also have a brand new wiring loom and I re wired the grounds on the blinkers with new hardware and dremil cleaned all the metal they hook to. Note - this bike didn't have blinkers when I got it

All working fine. Nice, flashing, bright blinkers. I took out the auto canceler. Only issue now is now the light on the center console doesn't really work. Left blinker it's very dim and right blinker doesn't turn it on at all. I tried different led bulbs with no luck. The head lamp notification (bottom of the tree) works great and bright with both bulbs. So I don't think it's the bulbs. I took the tree apart and looked at all wiring and it looks good. Looked at all the wiring diagrams and it looks simple enough so I'm not sure we're the drop in voltage can be coming from. Especially since the blinkers themselves are bright. The socket doesn't seem dirty or loose.

Any thoughts? I put it all back together last night assuming victory and thinking I don't care about the little dash light. Still would love to get it working.
 
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I made led indicator bulbs for my bike long before they were readily available. Seems to me I had to add a bridge rectifier to one of them because the polarity feeding the indicator would change. With a bridge rectifier added you can apply + or - to the bulb center terminal and it will still work.
 
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I made led indicator bulbs for my bike long before they were readily available. Seems to me I had to add a bridge rectifier to one of them because the polarity feeding the indicator would change.
So on the left blinker - the indicator turns on and flashes with the blinker. I assume that's correct. It just is incredibly dim. The right blinker it stays off
 
BTW, I never changed the bulbs in the turn signals themselves, maybe that is related to the indicator being dim.
Yeah I changed all the bulbs and the relay to make the indicators work. Otherwise the voltage is too low to make them flash. If I left the old bulb in the tree then it would suck all the power and also make the blinkers not work. The option was to add a diode or put an led bulb in it to work as a diode. I also got the diode kit from super bright leds. Tons of threads about it I used as reference. Maybe I miss understood something. The blinkers work with the bulb completely out too. Same with the rear brake light. I replaced it with an led and I just completely removed the brake light outage notification on the tree since voltages were too low (which used to signify and outage) and just kept that bulb on. Led or not
 
I'm far from being an electrical expert but the LEDs are Light Emitting Diodes. A diode is an electronic device that passes a current only in one direction It is like a one way valve. So provided you get the polarity right the bulbs will light as before on the left and on the right hand side circuits. They are separate and discrete circuits. But where the circuit is shared for the central indicator the bulb will flash for one indicator but not for the other. This is because when one indicator is activated the electrical flow though the central is in one direction so it works. But for the other indicator the flow is in the opposite direction so it doesn't.

You need to fit another LED in the common circuit.


This video explains how to make a Metric Diode Kit


I hope this helps.

Dave
 
I'm far from being an electrical expert but the LEDs are Light Emitting Diodes. A diode is an electronic device that passes a current only in one direction It is like a one way valve. So provided you get the polarity right the bulbs will light as before on the left and on the right hand side circuits. They are separate and discrete circuits. But where the circuit is shared for the central indicator the bulb will flash for one indicator but not for the other. This is because when one indicator is activated the electrical flow though the central is in one direction so it works. But for the other indicator the flow is in the opposite direction so it doesn't.

You need to fit another LED in the common circuit.


This video explains how to make a Metric Diode Kit


I hope this helps.

Dave

Thanks for the info. http://www.xs650.com/threads/converting-to-led-turn-signals.44563/. I think I need to do the diode deal with and follow this image. I actually bought the diode kit referenced but didn't think I needed it anymore.
 
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