Electric Vehicles, Hybrids...Battery tech... Land Air and Sea. Let's See 'em.

Is the internal combustion engine doomed to history

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • No

    Votes: 21 53.8%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Don't care

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • ...er... what was the question again?

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • Total voters
    39
Back when I was commuting, and gas hit $4.00 per gallon , the first time, I had briefly considered a used 2013 Zero DS. Even used it was still a lot of money, but I figured what I would save on gas and zero maintenance would make up for it. At the time there was literally no dealerships around and no support for the bike. That and when I looked up owner reviews, there were some owners that experienced computer problems, that were difficult to diagnose and expensive to fix. The dealership issue has since changed, and I would hope that the bikes have become more reliable. I still think they would make brilliant commuter bikes, but I also still can’t get over that initial purchase price.
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It'd be interesting to see a breakdown on the cost... the reason it cost's over twice the comparable ice bike. Is it the batteries? The motor? Dunno.... other than those two items... not really anything that exotic to it. Curious....
 
Now if they could make a hybrid that would really jack up the price
...and the weight! 😧

It'd be interesting to see a breakdown on the cost... the reason it cost's over twice the comparable ice bike. Is it the batteries? The motor? Dunno.... other than those two items... not really anything that exotic to it. Curious....
What you said plus development costs, low production volumes, setting up distribution networks, advertising, provision for warranties, reduced profit from parts sales i.e less servicing). There are probably more but that will do for starters.
 
Heard some electric bikes racing at Barber a few years ago. A couple EBR 1290s were out there at the same time. ZERO comparison. overloaded mixmasters vs Big muscle LOL. They were damned quick.
 
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A brief guide to electric conversions for classic cars​


"The biggest factor that rules over everything right now is the energy density," Bream said. "If I can pack more energy and more voltage into your car, just the weight reduction alone is going to improve all aspects of the vehicle's performance. And with so much development focused on battery technology right now, the energy density is constantly increasing. I'd like to see EV conversions able to hit the 300- and 400-mile ranges that the OEMs are currently enjoying, but to get there, we need the OEMs to be in the 600- to 700-mile range."

Bream added that with so much development being done around technologies like lithium-air, aluminum sulfide, solid-state, and graphene, that level of energy density is an inevitability.

"At this point, the trick is to take what seems really cool in the lab and make it work in the middle of the Nevada desert when it's 120 degrees outside," he said. Link.


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"At this point, the trick is to take what seems really cool in the lab and make it work in the middle of the Nevada desert when it's 120 degrees outside," he said. Link.

Another trick will be to be able to get the same range out of the battery regardless of ambient temperature.
There is a drop of some 30% between summer and winter on my A250e.
 
Thats an interesting read
There's smart people out there thinking outside the box
We've got solar farms all over here in central MN hopefully there thinking the same way
 

Air-One eVTOL Transportation Hub Makes Debut in UK.

Anyone here live near Coventry?


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Formula E’s new electric race car is lighter, more powerful, more nimble


The new Formula E car is smaller than the previous version, with a narrower track and shorter wheelbase. It's also gone on a diet, cutting the car's mass from Gen2's 903 kg to 760 kg, which is just lighter than a current F1 car, for context. Gen3's weight reduction is coupled with a significant power increase: from 250 kW (335 hp) to 350 kW (469 hp), deployed to the rear wheels. With a top speed of 200 mph (320 km/h), we expect lap times to be significantly faster than before.

Formula E cars have put on an extremely good show at Monaco in previous visits, and this year's race should be no exception. You can catch it on Saturday at 1 pm ET on CBS.


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Pipistrel Seeking FAA Nod for Electric Velis Trainer


Pipistrel is now seeking FAA type certification for its electrically-powered Velis Electro light aircraft, the company announced yesterday at the Aero Friedrichshafen show in Germany. This move comes almost two years after it became the first manufacturer to certify an electric aircraft with EASA when the European regulator approved the Velis.

Shortly after being acquired by Textron earlier this month, Pipistrel signaled its intent to offer the Velis Electro in the U.S. flight training market. “U.S. certification is not a problem,” said Pipistrel product manager Tadej Hozic. The plan is to obtain certification under FAA Part 23 regulations, based on the EASA CS-23 certification, and this would be the first FAA approval program for an electric aircraft.

The Velis Electro is powered by a 60-kW electric motor and 20-kW battery, he said, “which allows us to fly for one hour plus a legal reserve.” Battery charging from fully discharged takes about an hour. But typically after landing, the battery isn’t fully discharged, so after a debriefing, the Electro is ready for its next flight.

Lest anyone think this isn't for real... or ready for prime time, Pipistrel is currently producing 20 Velis' per month. In the airplane world, that's a lot of production.


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