Vintage sack barrow

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This is why I haven't finished restoring the Max Sievert blow torch yet. Oh, plus the fact it's been too bloody cold to spend much time in an unheated garage. Plus the fact I have a lot of demands on me time apart from motorbikes and old brass blow torches. However this is today's excuse, not of course that I need one.

In November, the couple who lived opposite, good friends, moved house. Was helping with packing & moving stuff and remarked on this old porter's trolley. Richard corrected me, not a porter's trolley but a sack barrow and you're welcome to have it. Absolutely insisted, don't you know.

Today, pulled it out into the light. Nothing much wrong with it. I'm calling it a vintage barrow because I have no idea when it was made. These days, they make barrows with spray-painted metal tubes and plastic wheels but this old feller has hardwood handles and a heavy, solid-looking, cast or forged (?) lifting platform, secured to the wooden frame by heavy through-bolts. So I reckon it must have been made a good while ago.

The wheels, solid and heavy like the rest, not sure the material, might be some type of vulcanised or synthetic rubber run on solid steel axles but all rusted up and dry. One washer missing - there should be four - and one split-pin missing. Mind you, full credit to the person who not only replaced the split-pin with a long thin nail but went the extra mile by bending the nail with 3 right angles to make sure it won't fall out.


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Today's job turned out to be getting the wheels off, cleaning the rusty axles, and shoving the wheels back on with four new washers, two new split-pins and plenty of moly grease.* As you might see, had a bright (sorry) idea for cleaning the axles with a dab of grinding paste on a strip of rag, passed once round the axle and pulled to-and-fro to remove the rust. Actually began a debate with myself, should I use from the Fine or the Coarse end of the grinding paste? Would coarse be too aggressive? Would fine take too long to shift the corrosion? The debate lasted about half-a-second and the argument what won it was the thought, 'this is a sack barrow ferchrissakes, not a performance camshaft.'

I think that is quite a handsome barrow. Deserves cleaning the woodwork, maybe lightly sand and apply some oil or wax. Might even paint the metal platform. Not much idea what I'll use it for. Occasionally need to shift slices of tree trunk for wood-splitting - they're too heavy to carry far and awkward to balance on a wheelbarrow. But I'll probably keep it even if it doesn't have a job.


* Went to Falla in Bonchester Bridge for the washers and pins. Nice run up into the hills on the W800.
 
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Generally, it seems to me most old stuff was made to stand the test of time. New stuff just pisses me off! That's a fine catch Raymond. It may work for a couple more generations with even the smallest amount of care.
New stuff does the same to me. Two things are certain, it wasn't made in China, and it will outlive us all.
 
This is why I haven't finished restoring the Max Sievert blow torch yet. Oh, plus the fact it's been too bloody cold to spend much time in an unheated garage. Plus the fact I have a lot of demands on me time apart from motorbikes and old brass blow torches. However this is today's excuse, not of course that I need one.

In November, the couple who lived opposite, good friends, moved house. Was helping with packing & moving stuff and remarked on this old porter's trolley. Richard corrected me, not a porter's trolley but a sack barrow and you're welcome to have it. Absolutely insisted, don't you know.

Today, pulled it out into light. Nothing much wrong with it. I'm calling it a vintage barrow because I have no idea when it was made. These days, they make barrows with spray-painted metal tubes and plastic wheels but this old feller has hardwood handles and a heavy, solid-looking, cast or forged (?) lifting platform, secured to the wooden frame by heavy through-bolts. So I reckon it must have been made a good while ago.

The wheels, solid and heavy like the rest, not sure the material, might be some type of vulcanised or synthetic rubber run on solid steel axles but all rusted up and dry. One washer missing - there should be four - and one split-pin missing. Mind you, full credit to the person who not only replaced the split-pin with a long thin nail but went the extra mile by bending the nail with 3 right angles to make sure it won't fall out.


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Today's job turned out to be getting the wheels off, cleaning the rusty axles, and shoving the wheels back on with four new washers, two new split-pins and plenty of moly grease.* As you might see, had a bright (sorry) idea for cleaning the axles with a dab of grinding paste on a strip of rag, passed once round the axle and pulled to-and-fro to remove the rust. Actually began a debate with myself, should I use from the Fine or the Coarse end of the grinding paste? Would coarse be too aggressive? Would fine take too long to shift the corrosion? The debate lasted about half-a-second and the argument what won it was the thought, 'this is a sack barrow ferchrissakes, not a performance camshaft.'

I think that is quite a handsome barrow. Deserves cleaning the woodwork, maybe lightly sand and apply some oil or wax. Might even paint the metal platform. Not much idea what I'll use it for. Occasionally need to shift slices of tree trunk for wood-splitting - they're too heavy to carry far and awkward to balance on a wheelbarrow. But I'll probably keep it even if it doesn't have a job.


* Went to Falla in Bonchester Bridge for the washers and pins. Nice run up into the hills on the W800.
Could have been made any time between 1890 and 1990, such was the design and materials used. It's been extended by a user, started off as a universal type of sack barrow with the shorter reach. Been thinking of doing that with my own.
Have a look for a railway stamp - railways were targets of thieves for a long time and stamped everthing they owned.
Even if it has a railway stamp it doesn't mean it was nicked. Plenty of them were sold off in later years.
However, these barrows were used everywhere, so it's just as likely it was either a commercial or personal purchaser in the beginning.
 
Thank you, @Grimly gives me a little bit of history. Love your dating range. Interesting it's been extended - hadn't occurred to me it wasn't made like that but now you mention it, why would they? Haven't noticed any ownership stamp.
 
hadn't occurred to me it wasn't made like that but now you mention it, why would they
Extending the load foot makes it much easier to pick up sacks, etc and keep them on board. The short foot is sometimes a benefit, sometimes a pain in the arris. Worthwhile extending it if you know all you'll use it for is sacks of stuff.
 
This morning, started on gentle sanding all over. The barrow, that is, I don't fancy that kind of stimulation, not my scene. And it's a very relaxing way to pass one of them odd bits of time when you ain't doing anything else. Squat meself down next to it on the garage stool and spend some quality time exploring the barrow all over, the wooden parts that is, just gently wiv a sanding block. And the time is rewarded by the wooden frame looking much better already, light sanding is removing a lot of dirt & grime plus the odd stain and bringing up the grain.


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Much better grain that I expected on such a utilitarian object. Be great if I can bring that character up a little further. Must be made outa decent wood - obviously, not like quality furniture but definitely not like cheap pallet timber neither. Once I finish light sanding all over, with a bit more work on odd dings or rough edges, and perhaps treat the framework to some wax or oil, it might be quite nice to handle.

While I was so close to the barrow, the thought occurred that the frame is very tight - got a solid feel to it like there's no give in any of the joints. WRT guessing the age of the thing, good solid joints like that does not suggest extreme age.
 
Nice! Looks beefy.
(aren't we all?) LOL
A good wipe down with boiled linseed oil repeated in 5 or 10 years seems appropriate.
An all metal pneumatic tire cart has lived here forever, gets occasional use. Always has at least one flat tire when I pull it out.
Tried making an XS650 motor specific carrier attachment for it but meh.
 
I don't know off the top of me head what the British equivalent to Hickory is. But historically, I think cricket bats were made from Willow which might similar?

I like the way garden tools age and be very happy if the barrow ends up as nice to look at and handle as that.

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Nice! Looks beefy.
(aren't we all?) LOL
A good wipe down with boiled linseed oil repeated in 5 or 10 years seems appropriate.
An all metal pneumatic tire cart has lived here forever, gets occasional use. Always has at least one flat tire when I pull it out.
Tried making an XS650 motor specific carrier attachment for it but meh.
I experienced the same thing with flat tires each time I pulled the cart out for use. Several years ago I purchased a set of foam filled tires for the cart and never looked back. It was a great investment.
 
How are the mortise and tenon joints held together? Are there dowels or wedges that I cant see. I doubt thry would have glued it back when originally built. That will look great oiled.
@bosco659, there's wooden dowels through the top joints, just about visible in the last photo at post #1 if you maximise the picture.

I'm guessing the screws that hold the top of the metal bracket pass through the mortice & tenon on the middle crossbar? Or perhaps they put wooden dowels and then fitted the screws into those - sounds a bit unlikely?

And I'm further guessing there's wooden dowels with their heads cut flush holding the lowest joints. But the frame still has full integrity - high falutin' word to apply to an old barrow - which makes me think it not really ancient.

I'm thinking oil or maybe just wax polish. Originally, the wood was varnished - there's just traces on the undersides of the cross bars, the rest has weathered away.
 
Seeing this bought back memories i cant remember having for 60 years. Back in my home town, small town of around 3,000 people, where i grew up on my fathers farm, the local produce store, a bit of everything a farmer needs from grain to engineering supplies to footwear and any machinery parts, even 80lb sacks of coal or 80lb sack of spuds. Not much they didn't sell.

They were called "Farmers co-op" with stores all over the country. We would buy 80lb sacks of wheat and corn, blood and bone and meal we mixed up to feed out poultry. Had laying hens a part of the farm.

Anyway, from as long as i can remember, i would sometimes go with my father in his 42 Ford V8 jailbar grill truck to the Farmers loading bay, to pick up supplies. They had the exactly same sack barrow as you have been given. What i do remember is there were 2 of them. One was smaller than the other with a short foot and the other was exactly the same as the one you have with an extended foot like yours. Why am i so sure? As a kid who was to young and small to operate these with a 80lb sack of grain/coal/spuds, i couldn't wait to be big enough to help, and those sack barrows were something that has stuck with me but as I said, it wasn't till i saw these pics it bought up the old memories.

Where they a turn of the century tool?? don't know but they are certainly old and i can't imagine they changed much till when i remember them.
 
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