Any advice for lacing a rear wheel

[y22c]

I figured a nice winter project would be to strip, polish, and put some new spokes in the old rims.
Front wheel was a piece a of cake, zero issues, rear wheel, another story.
I must of laced and unlaced the wheel at least a handful of times..
I am using the same technique I used on the front, but I am obviously missing something.
Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated.
TIA
Ken

 

[Adamc]

Rear wheels need ‘Offset Calculations’ to line up the drive chain line to the engine output sprocket.
I say hire a pro wheel builder, it’s easier in the long run.

 

[SEd27]

If you take your time it can be done.

There are a bunch of good threads on here showing spoke patterns, where to start etc.

I also found that the front laced up no problem but had issues with the rear.

Check the nipple length of the new vs old.

I barely got my rear MikesXS rim to lace and must have disassembled reassembled 20+ times.

It turns out the nipples supplied with the cad spoke kit were too short. I only found out when I upgraded to stainless spokes.

Also when Lacing the rear it is helpful to build a Taverner Jig (see below for bsa wheels)

http://www.wdbsa.nl/Wheel building.htm

They are not hard to build but really help to dial in the required offset.

Once the wheel is loosly laced, there is a pattern to tighten (if I recall it’s something like every other 4th spoke).

 

[SEd27]

Once you have the spokes evenly snugged up in the jig you can then transfer to the truing stand for final dial in

 

[gggGary]

I figured a nice winter project would be to strip, polish, and put some new spokes in the old rims.
Front wheel was a piece a of cake, zero issues, rear wheel, another story.
I must of laced and unlaced the wheel at least a handful of times..
I am using the same technique I used on the front, but I am obviously missing something.
Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated.
TIA
Ken

Pictures? What size is the rim?
You know there are inner and outer spokes and have them sorted?
the bend of the end is the difference.
Some random rear wheel lacing pics.

 

[GLJ]

What I do is use a plum-bob. The center of the rim should be centered on the the hub between the spokes. Works on front front or back rims.
If you think about it it makes sense.

 

[willis]

Not sure if this will be of any help, but a write up of my experience re-lacing my wheels after powder coating.
https://www.xs650.com/threads/spoke-wheel-rebuild.57489/

 

[y22c]

Guys, thanks for the replies..
After I posted, I went back for one more try....money
Don't know what I did different, but the wheel laced up as easy as the front
Now for truing
Thank again

 

[willis]

In my experience lacing wheels, it can become confusing after staring at it for so long you can feel a bit cross-eyed. My best advice for those taking this on is to take lots of before pics to reference and take your time. Congrats on the victory!

 

[RC4MAN]

Some may not like this but when I do one before disassembly I take a scribe and scribe a mark along the side of a couple spokes on either side of the hub that I'll be able to see when I reassemble it as a reference.
Then as gggGary showed in his photos, install the inner spokes first and get them all inserted into the rim and nipples on loosely before installing the outer spokes