Do we care about the enviroment !!! ????

Your pretty good at looking stuff up just broaden your search horizons a little and you’ll find some

You only post without any proof either way. Quite immature and childish really, especially when you won't post to back up your claim
If you believe it, it must b a fact, I'm sure the EPA would have the proof you believe now that they have sacked the people who actually do the research and now do the biding of one person who believes he knows everything.

All your beliefs revolve around what you want to believe.

Not posting information, telling me to broaden my search horizones, to back up what you say, does not help me change my mind or think you have anything relevant to the argument that global warming is fake........
Some people still believe the earth is flat and a man can b born from immaculate conception.
So no, what you are saying and posting without any links to back up your claim so others can look at, might make them look at their own interpretation or conclusion, (not just an, I believe), is what we down under call, brown arming.
 
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Your pretty good at looking stuff up just broaden your search horizons a little and you’ll find some
Using that logic, any idiot can make any idiotic claim... and it's up to others to prove/disprove the idiots claim?
Fortunately, it doesn't work that way. If you make a claim, be prepared to back it up with facts, otherwise you're just feeding the bullshit machine.

You wrote "Meanwhile according to core samples the earths temperature is on a downward trend, which may also explain extreme weather patterns." Yes, the Earth's core is cooling. Has been for billions of years and will continue cooling for billions more. Since scientists have no means of actually measuring the temp at the core, they also can't measure the rate of change at the core with any accuracy. I'll quote NASA here on the effects of climate change vs core temp change...

"Regardless of the eventual connections to be established between the solid Earth and climate, Dickey said the solid Earth's impacts on climate are still dwarfed by the much larger effects of human-produced greenhouse gases. "The solid Earth plays a role, but the ultimate solution to addressing climate change remains in our hands."

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasa-study-goes-to-earths-core-for-climate-insights/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-is-the-earths-core-so/
 
Using that logic, any idiot can make any idiotic claim... and it's up to others to prove/disprove the idiots claim?

I have trouble calling people idiots.
They usually jump up and down screaming then post how I am disrespectful, don't follow forum rules then go onto a massive hit campaign on me which brings in the moderators to clean up the thread with a warning to me about my attitude.

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Using that logic, any idiot can make any idiotic claim... and it's up to others to prove/disprove the idiots claim?
Fortunately, it doesn't work that way. If you make a claim, be prepared to back it up with facts, otherwise you're just feeding the bullshit machine.
As far as the bullshit machine goes global warming is its main menu, core samples from glaciers have made mapping the earth’s temperatures relative science, the earth has been heating and cooling long before we came along and it will continue long after we are gone no matter what Al Gore says. If anyone considers that bullshit that’s their prerogative conversely that alternate is true, nonetheless here is a chart compiled from glacier core samples that has tracked the earths temperature for many years
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You wrote "Meanwhile according to core samples the earths temperature is on a downward trend, which may also explain extreme weather patterns." Yes, the Earth's core is cooling. Has been for billions of years and will continue cooling for billions more. Since scientists have no means of actually measuring the temp at the core, they also can't measure the rate of change at the core with any accuracy. I'll quote NASA here on the effects of climate change vs core temp change...

"Regardless of the eventual connections to be established between the solid Earth and climate, Dickey said the solid Earth's impacts on climate are still dwarfed by the much larger effects of human-produced greenhouse gases. "The solid Earth plays a role, but the ultimate solution to addressing climate change remains in our hands."

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasa-study-goes-to-earths-core-for-climate-insights/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-is-the-earths-core-so/
Personally I don’t believe in our role in this as being truly detrimental, for instance CO2 is not bad in fact it makes the earth greener and produces O2 that we breathe.
Just because someone does an internet search that tells them rising CO2 levels are going to be the end of civilization doesn’t make it true, CO2 levels have been so much higher in the past and it has had no effect on on temperature.
I would be more worried about people like Bill Gates who think that they can actually manipulate the earth’s temperature
 
As far as the bullshit machine goes global warming is its main menu, core samples from glaciers have made mapping the earth’s temperatures relative science, the earth has been heating and cooling long before we came along and it will continue long after we are gone no matter what Al Gore says. If anyone considers that bullshit that’s their prerogative conversely that alternate is true, nonetheless here is a chart compiled from glacier core samples that has tracked the earths temperature for many years
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Personally I don’t believe in our role in this as being truly detrimental, for instance CO2 is not bad in fact it makes the earth greener and produces O2 that we breathe.
Just because someone does an internet search that tells them rising CO2 levels are going to be the end of civilization doesn’t make it true, CO2 levels have been so much higher in the past and it has had no effect on on temperature.
I would be more worried about people like Bill Gates who think that they can actually manipulate the earth’s temperature
Here's the bottom line. If I need brain surgery, I'll listen to the person that spent 10-15 yrs training for the job.

It's always amazed me that when you give someone a keyboard and an internet connection, they're suddenly an expert in climate science. :doh:
Not just any expert mind you, they suddenly become smart enough to directly contradict and rebut actual experts in the field, using bullshit they read on Facebook.
 
As far as the bullshit machine goes global warming is its main menu, core samples from glaciers have made mapping the earth’s temperatures relative science, the earth has been heating and cooling long before we came along and it will continue long after we are gone no matter what Al Gore says. If anyone considers that bullshit that’s their prerogative conversely that alternate is true, nonetheless here is a chart compiled from glacier core samples that has tracked the earths temperature for many years
View attachment 368270

Personally I don’t believe in our role in this as being truly detrimental, for instance CO2 is not bad in fact it makes the earth greener and produces O2 that we breathe.
Just because someone does an internet search that tells them rising CO2 levels are going to be the end of civilization doesn’t make it true, CO2 levels have been so much higher in the past and it has had no effect on on temperature.
I would be more worried about people like Bill Gates who think that they can actually manipulate the earth’s temperature

I am trying to broaden my searches, found this. To put it simply. CO2 raises the temperature, raised temperature causes prolonged droughts and more extreme wildfires.....plants like water and hate fire.....

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/dont-plants-do-better-environments-very-high-co2

This might b a bit woke due to it coming from a university.

https://extension.illinois.edu/blog...-respond-rising-carbon-dioxide-concentrations
 
As far as the bullshit machine goes global warming is its main menu, core samples from glaciers have made mapping the earth’s temperatures relative science, the earth has been heating and cooling long before we came along and it will continue long after we are gone no matter what Al Gore says. If anyone considers that bullshit that’s their prerogative conversely that alternate is true, nonetheless here is a chart compiled from glacier core samples that has tracked the earths temperature for many years
View attachment 368270

Personally I don’t believe in our role in this as being truly detrimental, for instance CO2 is not bad in fact it makes the earth greener and produces O2 that we breathe.
Just because someone does an internet search that tells them rising CO2 levels are going to be the end of civilization doesn’t make it true, CO2 levels have been so much higher in the past and it has had no effect on on temperature.
I would be more worried about people like Bill Gates who think that they can actually manipulate the earth’s temperature

I have no idea what this graph means.
Can you post some more context

IMG_3347.png

Can't understand why people blame Al Gore for the whole global warming debate.

Maybe this is a good time for you to broaden your search results to see if anyone else says it as well
 
Here's the bottom line. If I need brain surgery, I'll listen to the person that spent 10-15 yrs training for the job.

It's always amazed me that when you give someone a keyboard and an internet connection, they're suddenly an expert in climate science. :doh:
Not just any expert mind you, they suddenly become smart enough to directly contradict and rebut actual experts in the field, using bullshit they read on Facebook.
I used to be a huge fan of Science and I still revere the true genius’ like Einstein, DaVinci and Newton but things have really gone to shit lately; Science used to be all about questioning the logic, that was the backbone of any thesis or law, now we have people like Fauci, Gates (who isn’t a scientist) and world organizations with questionable funding. You can get any result you want from a computer model and it depends for the most part on who is funding the research, the other half of the story or studies that don’t exhibit the desired results are scoffed at as disinformation, this is where the breakdown in scientific data breaks the first rule of science; question the data and results.
So in this day and age the experts have become nothing more than tribal cohorts who follow the money, the internet has vastly exacerbated this trend so; you can literally go down any rabbit hole and come up with any number of theories.
I don’t trust big pharma or big money hence my beliefs tend to be skeptical as I firmly believe in questioning the results contrary to the pushed dialogue.
Believe what you want to believe because we; even as a collective society have little chance of questioning the so called experts at this point in time.
Live and let live, our time is short on here and I still believe that nobody should be forced to abandon their beliefs.
I don’t have Facebook or any other social media aside from 4 motorcycle related sites.
 
I have no idea what this graph means.
Can you post some more context

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Can't understand why people blame Al Gore for the whole global warming debate.

Maybe this is a good time for you to broaden your search results to see if anyone else says it as well
It basically proves the delta in the earths temperature over 100’s of thousands of years, the CO2 is bad myth is also demonstrated as the levels have been demonstrably higher in the past here is some broader research
https://electroverse.info/
 
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