I think that source of information need's to be extensively cross referenced with reputable sources before anything can b taken as factual.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/electroverse/
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Do we care about the enviroment !!! ????
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I think that source of information need's to be extensively cross referenced with reputable sources before anything can b taken as factual.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/electroverse/
I realise this is an old post but when the firm I work for were tendering for the olympic games in London 15 years ago we had to have an environmental policy
Of course being a steel fabrication firm we didn't have one
We had to quickly make one to get the contract
This included colour coded bins for staff
Food waste/card paper/plastic/ none recyclable
They came to inspect these bins several times (they even came and timed the flush interval on the urinal)
What they didn't see was our safety officer emptying all of the colour coded bins into the same bin every day
In Montgomery County Maryland (at least when I still lived there) you not only had to separate your trash and several kinds of recycling, they paid the "Trash Nazis" to drive around all day (in gas powered cars) checking everyone's trash. The best part was, all the recycling went to the "Montgomery County pile" (a recycling center where it was all dumped into one big pile), where it was then trucked to the landfills because Montgomery County couldn't find any industry willing to invest the money in the infrastructure, nor the money it would take to use the recyclables.
In the meantime, we've all but eliminated the use of glass, the one recyclable which (as I understood it at the time, at least) gets recycled on a mass scale (besides aluminum).
My understanding is this is VERY common.
I had to give up trying. Recycling is an extra expense for me and at the end of the day anything I managed to put into recycling ends up in the landfill anyway.
Yeah, I still know people there, lived in PG county 20 years and just as bad.
MD, they talk a big game, tax you out the a$$ and provide little for it.
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even if you care about the environment you need to have the mindset of the people and the politicians to change, I'm originally from Denmark (and I do go back yearly or bi-yearly to visit). Even since i was a kid back in the early '70ties, recycling was a thing (same in rest of scandinavia). Today recycling is extensive compared with then, not perfect and to some tend aggravating, but people figure it out. It's so well functioning / effective that some of the biodynamic powerplant made a business out of importing "trash" from other countries (read getting paid well for taking their trash). I think it might be impossible to do here, the scale is hugely diffrent and the distances so too. But what I could wish for was, that people would bring their trash to a trash can and not just throw it wherever (in)convenient - the difference in how clean it looks here compared with (at least scandinavia) is mind boggling, even my kids mention it, you do not see trash on the roads, neither rural or in the city, even heavy populated area as Copenhagen main station / pedestrian streets its so limited that when you see trash you are in awe, here you can't drive a mile without running into some sort of trash, plastic bottles/plastic bags/ fast food containers and old tires etc. If people cleaned that up, we would be a long way.
All on this forum rides and I'm sure part is enjoying the scenery
happy Wednesday
All on this forum rides and I'm sure part is enjoying the scenery
happy Wednesday
I’m poor. I can’t make ends meet. You insist I pay for trash pickup. Screw that! I’m dumping it on the side of the road. Or maybe I dump it behind my house.
Yeah we have issues with township roadside dumping cuz so many items are expensive to dispose of or require you to wait for a twice annual drop off window.
I've watched our separated garbage and recyclables go in the same truck some days. The garbage is all hauled out of county these days cuz county based dumps got regulated out of business. A couple fires at the recycle center a county over really cut ability to reclaim so government just lets the ball drop but trust them to handle world wide climate change remediation????
I've watched our separated garbage and recyclables go in the same truck some days. The garbage is all hauled out of county these days cuz county based dumps got regulated out of business. A couple fires at the recycle center a county over really cut ability to reclaim so government just lets the ball drop but trust them to handle world wide climate change remediation????
Someone dumped a couch in the field across the street from work. I asked my wife if I could bring it home and mount it to a go kart frame and go driving around but she (very wisely) said no.
They've started construction across the street, so the couch went away.
My point is, nobody fucking cares, everyone has the NIMBY approach.
They've started construction across the street, so the couch went away.
My point is, nobody fucking cares, everyone has the NIMBY approach.
We don't have mandatory recycling here, but I try to do my part where I can. I drink a lot of soda (my only vice—actually, I waste a lot because it goes flat) so I end up with a lot of aluminum cans. I collect them all and drop them off at the convenience center. Since we've started eating more pre-prepared meals (mostly Healthy Choice meals—yummy and low calorie) so I collect plastics and drop them off, too.
I don't dump chemicals on my yard (I even have a few sections of what you might call "meadow," plus a fair amount of woods). And we're just not big "consumers" who feel a need to keep up with the latest everything.
I don't dump chemicals on my yard (I even have a few sections of what you might call "meadow," plus a fair amount of woods). And we're just not big "consumers" who feel a need to keep up with the latest everything.
even if you care about the environment you need to have the mindset of the people and the politicians to change, I'm originally from Denmark (and I do go back yearly or bi-yearly to visit). Even since i was a kid back in the early '70ties, recycling was a thing (same in rest of scandinavia). Today recycling is extensive compared with then, not perfect and to some tend aggravating, but people figure it out. It's so well functioning / effective that some of the biodynamic powerplant made a business out of importing "trash" from other countries (read getting paid well for taking their trash). I think it might be impossible to do here, the scale is hugely diffrent and the distances so too. But what I could wish for was, that people would bring their trash to a trash can and not just throw it wherever (in)convenient - the difference in how clean it looks here compared with (at least scandinavia) is mind boggling, even my kids mention it, you do not see trash on the roads, neither rural or in the city, even heavy populated area as Copenhagen main station / pedestrian streets its so limited that when you see trash you are in awe, here you can't drive a mile without running into some sort of trash, plastic bottles/plastic bags/ fast food containers and old tires etc. If people cleaned that up, we would be a long way.
All on this forum rides and I'm sure part is enjoying the scenery
happy Wednesday
Recycling has to be pushed, organised and policed by authorities.
It took 25 years to get the public fully committed to get where they are now. When I say policed, not by way of fines, it was education. Checking people's recycling bins would involve helping them understand what needed to b sorted into the right containers and this required patience.
Now they are regarded as the poster boy of recycling.
97% of plastic bottles are recycled.
The argument that recycling plastic bottle creates pollution is valid till we compare the pollution of micro plastics is in every thing we do, eat and drink.
I ain't buying it. In the United States, roughly 29% to 33% of PET plastic bottles are recycled (source: 2023 Petcor report, and I'll bet a ham sandwich they're being optimistic), while only 5% of post-consumer plastic is recycled (less than 10% worldwide).
This is same system in all the Scandinavian countries, it started with glass bottles and evolved into cans and plastic too. Many events ( like festivals and amusement parks) sell beer on tap in a plastic cup, you get about .80 cent ( equivalent) back when you return it to an automated machine - it works when you talk money
In Norway. So, 97% of plastic bottles in a country the size of Montana (and far smaller than Victoria), with a population less than New York City (around the size of Queenland) are recycled.
I'm not saying that's a bad, just that it ain't exactly representative of the world. Further, you claimed, "97% of plastic bottles are recycled." Not that 97% of plastic bottles in Norway are recycled. Kind of a big difference.
And it's done through a scheme many other countries had, but got rid of due to consumer demand (deposit/refund).
Negativity +.
IT will never work if people don't buy into it, same attitude about EV's and that attitude is more prevalent in the states than Europe yet the comment on there being no roadside rubbish in Denmark is not noteworthy either????
roadside trash is highly variable in the US. Citizens of some (many?) states really step up to keep the roadsides clean.
Not entirely. EV ‘s are far too expensive and have too many drawbacks. That technology would have to mature before I would accept it. I don’t want a throwaway car no matter what fuels it.
Mississippi has about a 17% poverty rate. There are more important things to worry about than trash strewn about.
Edit: The challenge is how do go get people on board who are hungry or can’t pay their electric bill. That’s a lot of people I’m afraid.
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