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Electronic ignition

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by hovel, Mar 15, 2021.

  1. hovel

    hovel ol' stupid XS650.com Supporter

    An outfit called Rawhide Cycles sells an electronic ignition conversion for our 650's. It appears to be bone simple and leaves the stock coils in place. Does anyone have any knowledge/experience with it ?
     
  2. RustiePyles

    RustiePyles Semper Fortis XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Looks like a pretty basic hall effect rotor system. Let us know how it works.
     
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  3. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    @gggGary has experience with an almost identical system. The name of it eludes me at the moment. Maybe he'll chime in here. As I recall, the one he's played with is under a hundred bucks.
     
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  4. gggGary

    gggGary On the road of life I'm a speed bump. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

  5. gggGary

    gggGary On the road of life I'm a speed bump. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    You rang?
     
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  6. hovel

    hovel ol' stupid XS650.com Supporter

    Yep, looks similar. The link took me to a weak Chinese web site with no real info. They sell on fleabay, no info there either.
     
  7. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

  8. gggGary

    gggGary On the road of life I'm a speed bump. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    @billy icon icon on here used them, work fine. They are pretty much plug n play. I put one in that died very quickly, company replaced it no charge with a newer version, but I went back to points on that bike and have not used the replacement Tytronics yet.
     
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  9. xs2-John

    xs2-John XS650 Member

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    I just installed the rawhide on my XS1, the instructions are pretty vague, but not so much that you can't figure it out. The reason I bought the rawhide ignition is because it uses the same sensors that Charlie's place uses on their electronic ignition systems. I have one of theirs in my CB350, and they are hands down the best alternative to points in those bikes. Very reliable.
    Now the bad news. I installed it and set the timing with a test light, but the bike is not ready to start yet, still have some carburetor work to do, but I should be testing it out in the next couple of weeks. 20210425_150911.jpg
     
  10. XSLeo

    XSLeo XS650 Guru Top Contributor

    Watching the video it seems like an easy install. The LED,s for timing are a cool idea.
    Leo
     
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  11. xs2-John

    xs2-John XS650 Member

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    Ok, so here is where my install of the rawhide system was tricky. I bought mine directly from rawhide cycles. Screenshot_20210502-161437_Gallery.jpg
    As you can see, there are 3 wires coming from the pickups. Now look at the same system from lowbrow customs.
    Screenshot_20210502-161532_Samsung Internet.jpg
    There is a female pigtail which you need for connecting power to both coils.
    I had to add a jumper to power both coils and the pickups. That being said, the system works well and the bike fired right up after the install.
    I was interested in the tytronic system, but I have heard the pickups are not as reliable.
    If you are thinking of the rawhide, just make sure to find out if it has the female jumper wire so you don't re-read the instructions 20 times trying to figure out why it doesn't make sense.
     
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  12. Tylerho

    Tylerho XS650 New Member

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    Hey man can you post a picture of your wiring. I'm running a duel output. For some reason I can't get the test light to go off on the right side pick up. Wondering if it my wiring or if I got a dud unit.
     
  13. xs2-John

    xs2-John XS650 Member

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    I don't have any good pictures, but I unplugged the points harness AND the condenser wires from the 3 way connector coming from the harness. On my bike they were orange and gray I believe. Plugged the blue and yellow wires from the rawhide into those empty connectors. I think I got them backwards on my first try. Then I unplugged the power wire from the harness going to one of the coils and plugged the black wire into that. If you have the pigtail wire, the wire you unplugged goes into that. If not you will have to do what i did by making a jumper to reconnect that wire.
    If you have constant power at either the blue or yellow wire at the 3 way plugs while turning the engine over, make sure your connections are good from the rawhide at the 3 way plugs. Also check that the pickup isn't to far away from the magnetic rotor, they provide an Allen key for timing adjustments. Also be sure that plate is grounded, if the screws are left loose for timing adjustments ot won't work, it needs the ground to make a circuit. That's why they suggest if you use a timing light to check it, turn it off, make an adjustment, tighten the screws and try again.
     
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