Exhaust Port Optimizers (EPOs) compared to Torque Inserts

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I had a chance to compare the Torque Inserts (TI) sold widely by Mike’s XS, Heyden and others to the Exhaust Port Optimizers (EPOs) from MMM (650Central). My bike has the 700cc Hoos/Shell1 kit and 1.75” headers with TPOs, Torque Peak Optimizers from MMM, already installed. (The TPOs did a great job eliminating the severe inversion around 5K with the large diameter headers and I reported in that earlier: https://www.xs650.com/threads/torque-peak-optimizer-tpos-performance-dyno-charts.66469/)



First here is a visual comparison of EPOs and TIs.
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The EPOs is a work of art. Beautifully shaped for laminar flow and machined precisely to fit snuggly into the exhaust port.

The TIs are from https://yamahaxs650.com/ and I assume they are the same design as those available from other vendors. The TIs are longer, with an internal cone surface (see the cross section view below) to guide exhaust out and fit loosely into the exhaust ports vs a velocity-stack like surface of the EPOs. The exit opening of both is similar in diameter: 1.056” for TI and 1.035” for EPOs. On exit, the TI’s have a lip that seems to be angled a bit strangely, to almost funnel gases back in, while EPOs are opposite of that.

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EPOs in the exhaust port


Below is the comparison of air fuel ratio for the EPO and TI setups. The plot shows the reversion issue at 2500 rpm which, I suspect, is due to a reflection from the end of the header pipe where TPOs open up into the mufflers. I did the pre-tuning with the on-board AFR meter before dyno. With the EPOs I was able to lower the needle and reduce the width of the rich interval. With TIs, there was not much change with moving the needle. So, in my experience, EPOs are better at limiting the reversion/reflection than the TIs.

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For the horsepower and torque, the output is essentially the same, except for at near the red line. The difference could be due to the slightly smaller outlet diameter and the length of the narrow section of the EPOs, but the bike ‘feels’ more responsive with EPOs than TIs.

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The EPO runs were taken ~ 9 months apart, the TI numbers were repeated during two separate pulls on the same day/same session.

It is important to note that results will be different for a different engine/exhaust/intake configuration particularly as displacement/cam timing and exhaust are changed. More overlap and less exhaust scavenging (for example, not having the TPOs installed already) will favor the EPO design even more.

My next project will be playing with the length of the TPOs to move the dip at 2500rpm around to see if I can move it out of the operating range of the motor.
 
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Love the intro of the video :lmao:

Interesting stuff, but it all seems very hard to test as a hobbyist. Ik like how ZRX is testing stuff. I try to do it like that. But comparing results is difficult. Every bike here seems to have another setup.
 
I had a chance to compare the Torque Inserts (TI) sold widely by Mike’s XS, Heyden and others to the Exhaust Port Optimizers (EPOs) from MMM (650Central). My bike has the 700cc Hoos/Shell1 kit and 1.75” headers with TPOs, Torque Peak Optimizers from MMM, already installed. (The TPOs did a great job eliminating the severe inversion around 5K with the large diameter headers and I reported in that earlier: https://www.xs650.com/threads/torque-peak-optimizer-tpos-performance-dyno-charts.66469/)



First here is a visual comparison of EPOs and TIs.
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The EPOs is a work of art. Beautifully shaped for laminar flow and machined precisely to fit snuggly into the exhaust port.

The TIs are from https://yamahaxs650.com/ and I assume they are the same design as those available from other vendors. The TIs are longer, with an internal cone surface (see the cross section view below) to guide exhaust out and fit loosely into the exhaust ports vs a velocity-stack like surface of the EPOs. The exit opening of both is similar in diameter: 1.056” for TI and 1.035” for EPOs. On exit, the TI’s have a lip that seems to be angled a bit strangely, to almost funnel gases back in, while EPOs are opposite of that.

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EPOs in the exhaust port


Below is the comparison of air fuel ratio for the EPO and TI setups. The plot shows the reversion issue at 2500 rpm which, I suspect, is due to a reflection from the end of the header pipe where TPOs open up into the mufflers. I did the pre-tuning with the on-board AFR meter before dyno. With the EPOs I was able to lower the needle and reduce the width of the rich interval. With TIs, there was not much change with moving the needle. So, in my experience, EPOs are better at limiting the reversion/reflection than the TIs.

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For the horsepower and torque, the output is essentially the same, except for at near the red line. The difference could be due to the slightly smaller outlet diameter and the length of the narrow section of the EPOs, but the bike ‘feels’ more responsive with EPOs than TIs.

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The EPO runs were taken ~ 9 months apart, the TI numbers were repeated during two separate pulls on the same day/same session.

It is important to note that results will be different for a different engine/exhaust/intake configuration particularly as displacement/cam timing and exhaust are changed. More overlap and less exhaust scavenging (for example, not having the TPOs installed already) will favor the EPO design even more.

My next project will be playing with the length of the TPOs to move the dip at 2500rpm around to see if I can move it out of the operating range of the motor.
 
There used to be a short article in the Australian XS club website, where someone had made an exhaust port insert, with a piece of profiled flat bar reaching into the exhaust port. Basically making the exhaust port floor flat / raising the port floor, creating a D shaped port. Maybe #650Skull has some more on this mod?
Also, on my ongoing 80-82 XT250 project, the exhaust port is D- shaped from the factory. There is a pronounced "hump" in the exhaust port floor, however it has a smooth radius both in upstream and downstream side.
Someone in the comment field of Vizard's video mentions that Akropovic exhaust systems used in WSB have some kind of anti reversion device in the header
spigots.
Which is a bit odd, as Vizard mentioned that the Cosworth DFV F1 engine had zero benefit from Feuling's anti reversion tech, basically because the DFV had higly developed ports and zero reversion issues that needed fixing. I would think that current WSB engines are at least as well designed as the DFV was in the 70s/ 80s..
 
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IIRC, A. Graham Bell (not THAT Bell..) mentions in his "4 stroke tuning" book that sometimes the header pipe can be made bigger than the exhaust port, but offset "downwards", so there will be a step at the floor and no step at the "roof", just a smooth transition from port to pipe. Supposedly to avoid reversion.
 
I have head with a similar mod the insert is made of aluminium and held in place by a screw through the bottom of the head. The ring fills the smaller diameter of the mounting boss and the pipes centre on the larger part.
 
There used to be a short article in the Australian XS club website, where someone had made an exhaust port insert, with a piece of profiled flat bar reaching into the exhaust port. Basically making the exhaust port floor flat / raising the port floor, creating a D shaped port. Maybe #650Skull has some more on this mod?
Also, on my ongoing 80-82 XT250 project, the exhaust port is D- shaped from the factory. There is a pronounced "hump" in the exhaust port floor, however it has a smooth radius both in upstream and downstream side.
Someone in the comment field of Vizard's video mentions that Akropovic exhaust systems used in WSB have some kind of anti reversion device in the header
spigots.
Which is a bit odd, as Vizard mentioned that the Cosworth DFV F1 engine had zero benefit from Feuling's anti reversion tech, basically because the DFV had higly developed ports and zero reversion issues that needed fixing. I would think that current WSB engines are at least as well designed as the DFV was in the 70s/ 80s..

Chatted with MMM. He beleives that D-ports are a good idea, just a pain to weld them in. He did contemplate how inserts of some sort could be made to raise the floor of the port. sent me this photo

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I remember seeing a D port, (inlet), pic on their website. Looks to b the same one that MMM gave you

On the Aussie site where they built the club racer, they were in contact with MMM, using his race experience. There was a drawing of an exhaust reversion cone that MMM advised for the bike. Could b in the old web site under the club racer. I will have a look around later.
 
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