Miss November XS2 tribute

[Its been a long time]

I have just removed and refitted the rear end on my 650D on account of rechroming the parts. Without a doubt, much easier to do what you're doing with the parts removed and they're so easy to remove and refit as a unit. I renewed all the rubber parts while doing the job. I just had to make two new tubular spacers that were missing from the 10mm diameter bolts that fit through the rubber grommet mounts. They had been omitted on previous assembly. So in fact as assembled without the spacers, the rubber mounting wasn't actually doing anything. It was defacto solid mount. So if nothing else, it was worth stripping it down just to find those two tubular spacers were missing. I had a piece of 1/2" OD steel tube that was exactly right once two pieces of appropriate length were cut.

 

[Raymond]

Cheers, IBALT! I'll check those spacers on Missy aren't, uhm, missing . . .

 

[Its been a long time]

Cheers, IBALT! I'll check those spacers on Missy aren't, uhm, missing . . .

Oh, I'm sure you couldn't possibly have got that wrong!



As an aside, for clarity I was going to post a screenshot of the assembly from Partzilla. But for some curious reason or other the 10mm bolt and the spacer aren't shown. The indicator assembly and the rear mudguard are on separate fiches. That's not so surprising. But the 2x 10mm bolts and spacer that holds it all together, I can't find in the parts diagrams.

 

[Wagner73]

So actually, I think most of the online diagrams, etc list this incorrectly (or at least mis-labeled). The two attached photos taken from reprint of an actual Yamaha parts manual shows that it doesn't use a spacer there, but rather a special shoulder bolt (Item 17)

Having said that, I'm positive your spacer will work perfectly!

 

[Its been a long time]

So actually, I think most of the online diagrams, etc list this incorrectly (or at least mis-labeled). The two attached photos taken from reprint of an actual Yamaha parts manual shows that it doesn't use a spacer there, but rather a special shoulder bolt (Item 17)

Having said that, I'm positive your spacer will work perfectly!

Thank you sir. Clearly what's happened is the shoulder bolts and acorn nuts were replaced by previous owner who fitted 10mm bolts, regular nuts but didn't use a spacer. You're quite correct, the spacer I am using is a proxy for the shoulder bolt.

Thanks again for making that really clear.

 

[gggGary]

Yes shoulder bolts, and more often than not hacked with "some longer bolt" when rack/backrests were kludged on.
PS I've used the "pipe nipple sleeve" fix too. ;^)

 

[Its been a long time]

Yes shoulder bolts and more often than not hacked with "some longer bolt" when rack/backrests were kludged on.
PS I've used the "pipe nipple sleeve" fix too. ;^)

Ah yes. That explains why the original shoulder bolts have gone missing. Never thought of that, but it's highly likely the case.

 

[Raymond]

Cheers, IBALT! I'll check those spacers on Missy aren't, uhm, missing . . .

Looks like correct shoulder bolts. In general, the hardware on this bike has been good. Far cry from my TR6 of yore where seemingly every fastener was rounded, chewed, mis-matched or just wrong. Gave that bike the appellation Fanny.

 

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Looks like correct shoulder bolts. In general, the hardware on this bike has been good. Far cry from my TR6 of yore where seemingly every fastener was rounded, chewed, mis-matched or just wrong. Gave that bike the appellation Fanny.

I had every confidence it would be just perfect. And so it turned out to be!



Much easier sorting out the wiring with the whole rear end removed and it's so easy to remove too.

I might just make a pair of those one day though.

 

[Raymond]

I guess Brits will understand the moniker Fanny but N Americans would need to know that in Britain, Fanny is a respectable shortening of the girl's name Francis or less respectably a synonym of cunt.

 

[Wagner73]

Knew that...

 

[gggGary]

USA a Fanny is a "polite" term for butt or rear end IE a fanny pack.

Oddly they are usually worn on the front.

 

[Raymond]

Fanny is slightly more acceptable in mixed company than what still gets called the C word. And Brits have learned not to snigger when Americans talk about fanny packs or the need to get off one's fanny.

Royal Mail has emailed me, the Vehicle Wiring Products parcel will be delivered tomorrow, 1st December between 1:15 and 4:15

Y'know, I could manage when we weren't given these continual updates - your parcel has been packed, your parcel has been posted, your parcel is now with the courier, your parcel is now out for delivery. Doh!

 

[Its been a long time]

Excellent place to buy your electrical components from. I haven't placed an order there for a while as I haven't been doing much electrical stuff recently. Recommended supplier for anyone in the UK, fair prices and quick shipping.

 

[Raymond]

Agreed! I've used them a number of times, good range of products, never any hassles, highly recommended.

 

[Wagner73]

Y'know, I could manage when we weren't given these continual updates - your parcel has been packed, your parcel has been posted, your parcel is now with the courier, your parcel is now out for delivery. Doh!

I generally feel the same, these constant updates are mostly overwhelming and useless...just tell me it shipped and out for delivery and I'm good.

And sometimes it's a crock of $hit. Two examples: parcel coming from EU to me, now 30 days in transit (supposedly) and tracking site says "Electronic booking submitted by shipper. Awaiting package". Cool. Or eBay shipper generates a label so eBay says "It's Shipped". But is it really, as the USPS site says "Awaiting parcel acceptance"?! Duplicitous.

 

[gggGary]

I generally feel the same, these constant updates are mostly overwhelming and useless...just tell me it shipped and out for delivery and I'm good.

And sometimes it's a crock of $hit. Two examples: parcel coming from EU to me, now 30 days in transit (supposedly) and tracking site says "Electronic booking submitted by shipper. Awaiting package". Cool. Or eBay shipper generates a label so eBay says "It's Shipped". But is it really, as the USPS site says "Awaiting parcel acceptance"?! Duplicitous.

Just went through that. after 10 days of a tracking number but not received by f-dEx, an eBay dispute got my money back. It was long bulky item, I suspect the seller was going to get hosed on shipping, so just bailed on the sale. ;^(

 

[Wagner73]

I might just make a pair of those one day though.

If you choose to do so, here is original bolt data: Head 17 mm; Shoulder 16.75 mm long, 15 mm Dia; Overall bolt length 35 mm, 10 mm thread...sorry, forgot to check pitch, most likely 1.25.

Oh, and a decent size flat washer underneath the bolt head.

 

[Its been a long time]

If you choose to do so, here is original bolt data: Head 17 mm; Shoulder 16.75 mm long, 15 mm Dia; Overall bolt length 35 mm, 10 mm thread...sorry, forgot to check pitch, most likely 1.25.

Oh, and a decent size flat washer underneath the bolt head.

Thank you. I can draw that for my machinist buddy. I can buy stainless steel acorn nuts and it's going to look stock. I think common easy to get acorn nuts are 10mm x 1.5mm thread pitch so that's what I'll do.

 

[Raymond]

OK, looking for ideas. I bin using mini-connectors to tidy the wiring - hoping to end up with a lot less of a rats' nest in the headlamp shell.

One technique I've used on the Bullet 500 is to make one-to-multi using spliced wires and daisy-chaining along a mini-connector, like this:



The female half of this 6-way connector block has one input A and when A is live, so will be outputs A-F. It works but awkward, clunky. fiddly, and the female connectors struggle to accept two wires twisted together.

So today's experiment has been to take a length of tracer wire, strip the insulation, fold and twist, crimp on a connector, fold and twist, 'nother connector. Obvious downside is - I just stripped the insulation, so that's not going to be great inside the headlamp shell. But my solution to that has been to encase the bare copper wires in JB Weld. Drying in the garage overnight.

However, I call on the collective wisdom of you lot. This is something that must have been done many times? Has any of you found a way to make multiple connections with mini-connectors? Perhaps there's a product on the market?

I'll see how today's effort is doing tomorrow.