Question for pre-1991 Vets. Cold War Medal real ?

If I'm not mistaken, they've added an income means test also if it's not service connected. So theoretically, if you're wealthy and just want to freeload, you'll be charged a fee.
How much that is, I have no idea.
It’s been a very long time since I investigated this. I assume that because I can buy into the plan provided by my employer, am over 65 and can pay for Medicare, and I live in Mississippi, that I won’t want VA medical. I say that because no vets I know are on it. Retired veterans I know are on Tricare. I assume that’s comprehensive, not free and only available under qualifying conditions.

Under “Service Requirements” it says “enlisted after Sept. 7 1980,”. I don’t know what that means, but I enlisted in 1977.
 
Okay, let me begin by saying that I'm not very smart.
I just completed my VA Healthcare application, which I expect to be approved.
I have looked into VA Healthcare innumerable times over the years, and it always appeared to me that I wasn't eligible. I cannot explain this, but as said, read the first line above.
 
Wtf? Unprotected? Not a fan of unprotecting any vet unless they were dishonorably discharged for treason. Our government sends our boys to some foreign country to beat the shit out of terrorists and watch their friends and brothers in arms get blown up by IEDs but then they come home and they don't have the support they need. Can't find a job because of the shell shock, can't afford the healthcare to treat the shell shock because of a lack of insurance because of a lack of job because of untreated shell shock.

MEANWHILE our fucking senators are dining on lobster dinners and having liaisons with their mistresses and buying them diamond necklaces.


Ok rant over.
Written by Rudyard Kipling almost 150 yrs ago after serving with the British Army.
Some things never change....


TOMMY

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!​
 
Just seems our gov't treats welfare mammas better than guys and gals who have been "in the shit"... I could be pulling a bunch of information out of my ass but that's how I see things. It's like our gov't rewards the lazy.

Trying very hard not to get into politics here...
 
When I first looked into VA benefits, there was an income test and I made too much to be eligible for anything not service-connected.

When things got more desperate hearing-wise, I looked a little closer and the local VSO (Veteran Service Officer) helped me through the process of getting my hearing loss service-connected. The guy was a peach and basically did all the paperwork, all I had to do was sign on the dotted line and show up for a couple of hearing tests. Once service connection was validated, I was immediately eligible to use the VA for Primary Care, Eye Care and Audiology. About the only thing I can't get is dental as I'm only 10% service connected.
 
Was in the army from 1970 to 1972. I've been using VA health care every since 2001 for verry serious and minor health issues and so far so good . If it weren't for the VA I would be either dead or broke or both. I'm a fan.
 
Make a suggestion for all y'all who haven't already done so... and anyone reading this on active duty ready to muster out.... Get a hard copy of your medical records. That way you're not trusting anyone to actually look at 'em if/when you file a disability claim.

I busted my rt knee up pretty good jumping off the top of a burning F-111. A few yrs after I retired I was getting shots in my knee. About 20 yrs after, I had my knee replaced when the shots no longer worked.

Filed a disability claim and they denied it as not service related. The denial letter started with "After reviewing you medical records,..."

I dug out my copy of the records, turned the pertinent ones to PDF's and sent copies to them with an appeal order. Had to go to the VA so they could physically see my scar :rolleyes: ... but they approved my appeal shortly after.

Never trust the sons a bitches to actually do their job and research the claim.... get copies of everything!
 
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Pursuant to what Jim said above:

Also get a VA evaluation as close to retirement/discharge as you can manage. I didn't for three reasons:

1) The VA was a snake pit in 1990, at least the one local to me.
2) I'm lazy.
3) I'm stupid.

Had I done that back in the day, the process of getting my hearing aids would've gone MUCH smoother and more quickly.

You may be 6'2" and bulletproof at the time, but trust me, you won't always be.
 
Pursuant to what Jim said above:

Also get a VA evaluation as close to retirement/discharge as you can manage. I didn't for three reasons:

1) The VA was a snake pit in 1990, at least the one local to me.
2) I'm lazy.
3) I'm stupid.

Had I done that back in the day, the process of getting my hearing aids would've gone MUCH smoother and more quickly.

You may be 6'2" and bulletproof at the time, but trust me, you won't always be.
Yeah, what he said... and take it all seriously. I did get a VA eval less than a month after retirement.
The VA rep had me report the knee as a disability. The VA turned it down back on that initial claim in '94.

I was 5'8" and bulletproof at the time... as DE says, so I just dropped it. Had I taken it serious and perused the claim, I wouldn't have had to go through all the bullshit they put me through this time.
 
Okay, let me begin by saying that I'm not very smart.
I just completed my VA Healthcare application, which I expect to be approved.
I have looked into VA Healthcare innumerable times over the years, and it always appeared to me that I wasn't eligible. I cannot explain this, but as said, read the first line above.
Update, probably boring, but just for the record:
Got a letter Saturday from the VA saying they couldn't locate records of my service, which is ridiculous.
Called the number on the letter, and fairly painlessly got my service confirmed. Got enrolled in VA health care on the spot. So, it took about exactly 3 weeks.

For the time being not much is going to change in my life. I like my current doctors, my Medicare co-pay is only $35 a visit, and the big VA hospital is inconveniently on the far-off other side of town. However, I take great comfort in knowing that I will have health care after Medicare goes bankrupt, which the current administration is doing everything possible to accelerate.
 
Update, probably boring, but just for the record:
Got a letter Saturday from the VA saying they couldn't locate records of my service, which is ridiculous.
Called the number on the letter, and fairly painlessly got my service confirmed. Got enrolled in VA health care on the spot. So, it took about exactly 3 weeks.

For the time being not much is going to change in my life. I like my current doctors, my Medicare co-pay is only $35 a visit, and the big VA hospital is inconveniently on the far-off other side of town. However, I take great comfort in knowing that I will have health care after Medicare goes bankrupt, which the current administration is doing everything possible to accelerate.
My suggestion would be to go ahead and make an appointment for a primary care check up and / or eye checkup. to make suer your in the system.
 
Well shiite, if anyone is still following this I actually have some experfience in thiis area and can provide some insight, advice on how to deal with and what to expect if you are trying to file a claim for benefits. First off, do not deal directly with the VA on your own get an advocate. Like Down Easter said. The Department of Veterans Affairs is not an advocate anymore than the Department of motor Vehicles is when you apply for a drivers license. They don't care if you get benefits, not very helpful with the process and almost always deny claims the first time around. Go to your county veteran's service office, it's free, they are usually staffed by disabled veterans who went to college and got human services degrees and are experts in filling out all the forms, correctly so the claim isn't denied because a box wasn't checked or some shit like that. The service officers actually want a claim to get approved because the more veterans they help the more money they get and higher priority from the county budget. And like I said they are also veterans. I was a work study for the county VSO when I was goig to school and at that time they were just below the dog pound when it came to funding and they hated that fact.Also expect to have to appeal claim denials, you can make multiple appeals, you won't get in any trouble accused of fraud. A lot of denials are for reasons like they need more evidence, witness statements or someone forgot a signature. It can be a long and frustrating process but the one good part is when a claim get approved the claimant is retro payed back to the original date that he filed. That could be a fair amount of money, at least enough to Buy half a dozen new projects, or Idon't know, maybe a Sportster because the girl you're dating lives an hour and a half away and you can only ride about 30 minutes on Your S3 before your hands go numb, your back starts cramping and your balls ache. Or some other hyppothetical situation. So get an advocate to handle your claim at a VSO, VFW maybe American Legion. Oh and if you live in a big city, high population find A VSO in a smaller rural area so you'll get seen sooner and the service officers won't have such a big worload and be able to concentrate on your claim. Or even if it's just a shitty office you can submit a claim at any of them I believe. A friend of mine's dad was a door gunner in Vietnam and got denied over and over in thre Frisco area, moved up here and got approved in less than a year
 
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