Should we be afraid of Artificial Intelligence?

It worries me that simple basic things - such as facts - will be or sadly have already been lost, gone, exist no more, defunct, no longer relevant, matter of opinion, my facts are truer than your facts. As we move into a future where people are fed dross rubbish based on alleged truth supplied by what appear to be highly flawed AI assistants. Who am I to tell you that Elizabeth 1 died in 1603? If the AI assistant you have consulted tells you otherwise then obviously the facts I was taught at school in a pre-computer age by teachers who weren't even there in 1603 are wrong.

How will society function when facts become a matter of debate? Uh, oh, that seems to be the case already in political discourse.

But how does a history teacher, or maths, or indeed anybody cope? We're all doomed, laddie, doomed.
 
Interesting piece I found


MIT just completed the first brain scan study of ChatGPT users and the results are terrifying. I've actually thought similar things over the years. While AI may be making us more productive in certain ways, it's making heavy users cognitively bankrupt. Here's what 4 months of data revealed.

1) 83.3% of ChatGPT users couldn't quote from essays they wrote minutes earlier. Let that sink in. You write something, hit save, and your brain has already forgotten it because ChatGPT did the thinking.

2) Brain scans revealed the damage: neural connections collapsed from 79 to just 42. That's a 47% reduction in brain connectivity. If your computer lost half its processing power, you'd call it broken. That's what's happening to ChatGPT users' brains.

3) Teachers didn't know which essays used AI, but they could feel something was wrong. Soulless. Empty with regard to content. Close to perfect language while failing to give personal insights. The human brain can detect cognitive debt even when it can't name it.

Here's the terrifying part. When researchers forced ChatGPT users to write without AI, they performed worse than people who never used AI at all. It's not just dependency. It's cognitive atrophy.
Like a muscle that's forgotten how to work.

The MIT team used EEG brain scans on 54 participants for 4 months. They tracked alpha waves (creative processing), beta waves (active thinking), and neural connectivity patterns.

This isn't opinion. It's measurable brain damage from AI overuse. The productivity paradox nobody talks about:

Yes, ChatGPT makes you 60% faster at completing tasks.
But it reduces the "germane cognitive load" needed for actual learning by 32%. You're trading long-term brain capacity for short-term speed.

Companies celebrating AI productivity gains are unknowingly creating cognitively weaker teams. Employees become dependent on tools they can't live without, and less capable of independent thinking.

Many recent studies underscore the same problem, including the one by Microsoft.

MIT researchers call this "cognitive debt" - like technical debt, but for your brain. Every shortcut you take with AI creates interest payments in lost thinking ability.
And just like financial debt, the bill comes due eventually.

But there's good news.
Because session 4 of the study revealed something interesting.

People with strong cognitive baselines showed HIGHER neural connectivity when using AI than chronic users. But, chronic AI users forced to work without it? They performed worse than people who never used AI at all.

The solution isn't to ban AI. It's to use it strategically.

The choice is yours. Build cognitive debt and become an AI dependent. Or build cognitive strength and become an AI multiplier.
The first brain scan study of AI users just showed us the stakes. Choose wisely.

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@650Skull I just don't know what to say! It's kind of hard to believe that thousands of otherwise normal adults have come to believe - or say they have come to believe - that ChatGPT is a divine intelligence.

The highly irritating, misleading and frequently wrong messages the Google AI assistant serves up to me will explain that Natural Language Processing: Helps them understand what you say or type.

In my view that is a misleading and probably even deliberately misleading use of the word 'understand'. Which Collins dictionary defines as 'to know and comprehend the nature or meaning of'. Quite frankly, no program running on a microchip can possibly do any of that. Nobody I know who works in computing thinks a computer can understand anything.
 
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@650Skull I just don't know what to say! It's kind of hard to believe that thousands of otherwise normal adults have come to believe - or say they have come to believe - that ChatGPT is a divine intelligence.

The highly irritating, misleading and frequently wrong messages the Google AI assistant serves up to me will explain that Natural Language Processing: Helps them understand what you say or type.

In my view that is a misleading and probably even deliberately misleading use of the word 'understand'. Which Collins dictionary defines as 'to know and comprehend the nature or meaning of'. Quite frankly, no program running on a microchip can possibly do any of that. Nobody I know who works in computing thinks a computer can understand anything.
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I think the glass is half empty on this one. Humans are not a higher being, I think how, for me, reason went out the door in the pandemic with the mob mentality against science and vaccines. That combined with a lack of faith in or governments, has been building up for a long time. The internet has allowed conspiracies the opportunity to flourish in the collective coupling with disillusionment in science and an overwhelming disbelief in global warming. Or disbelief we are the cause. Like flat earthers the belief the earth heals itself, although true to an extent, is a fallacy. It in all likelihood survives but change is inevitable but not predictable or guaranteed the life it supports will b human.

Like I said I only watched 10 min, in that time I heard a lot of what I have been reading. RC4man. Confirms her points. His doctor is relying on AI to diagnose ailments he doesn't have.

Is the question, are we getting so lazy our reliance on the technology to do everything for us from voice controlled, lights on, play my favourite song, turn the TV and kettle on then sitting down to a conversation with AI our Pinnacle.

Reading a book, learning an instrument, utilising our hands, gardening, making something, b it artistic, ( our bike hobby), something to stimulate our senses.

Humans have to believe in a higher being, of some kind something that transcends us. The belief we are worm fodder does not give life any meaning. Scares the shit out of me but I can see people revering AI as inspiration to fulfill that need.

Something the rich tech owners of AI would love, gives them the opportunity for more control.

Posted this in the joke thread but it is far more than that. On the whole, have lost the art of communication

How basic is the answer

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From a promoters view and the reality of how he operates now and future predictions

https://www.theblackhoody.com/p/the-entertainment-jobs-ai-will-kill


From one of the commenters and how he invisages and uses Asimov's 3 laws of roboticsm making up and suggesting laws protecting us so we have control.of AI

Good reasoning to have laws to control AI and against letting the 10 year moritorium take away controls

https://biggiantwords.substack.com/p/what-if-asimovs-three-laws-werent?triedRedirect=true
 
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"25 or 6 to 4" is a song by the band Chicago. The title refers to the time of day: 25 or 26 minutes before 4:00 AM. The song was written by Robert Lamm, one of the band's founding members, and is about the process of writing a song late at night.
 
Hundreds of users tagged X's integrated AI bot Grok to ask: Is this real?

It's not — the video was created with generative AI. But Grok's responses varied wildly, sometimes minute to minute. "The video likely shows real damage," said one response; "likely not authentic," said another.

Reuters Institute report published in June showed that about 7% of users in the dozens of countries the institute surveyed use AI to get news. When asked for comment, X, OpenAI, Google and Anthropic did not respond.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5442682/ai-chatbots-fact-check-videos-images-israel-iran

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Hundreds of users tagged X's integrated AI bot Grok to ask: Is this real?

It's not — the video was created with generative AI. But Grok's responses varied wildly, sometimes minute to minute.
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This is just all so unreal. The sheer volume of deliberate mis information, fake imagery, conspiracy theories passing for facts is terrifying. So many lazy people get all their news from social media and headline blurbs that get blasted to their cell phones. Headlines are often meant to grab your attention with deliberately inflammatory wording, if you read into the story you often find that the bulk of the story doesn’t match the the wild headline. Most folks don’t bother to try and verify news from multiple sources. They are happy to just repeat the story they just saw someone else post on Facebook.


If you want to read something REALLY NUTS, do an online search AI personal relationships, there are tons of them. Here is just one,

https://neurosciencenews.com/ai-human-relationships-ethics-psychology-28608/

Humans are increasingly turning to AI companions for love. Some have found these relationships so addictive, because they are always there to tell you just what you want to hear, some have even broken up their marriages to spend all their time with an imaginary partner.

The whole thing is like something from a science fiction movie. The 2013 movie Her, was about exactly this! Long before it was actually being done, the movie was about this sad guy who falls in love with an AI companion. A case of life imitating art.
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Truth has always been in short supply, especially in politics and most especially in times of War. We are witnessing a further attack on truth, which seems much more worrying.

Manipulating images is just one aspect - how far has AI undermined Truth? We've moved from Can we believe and trust AI images?

Now we're at Can we believe and trust any image?

The propagandist wins if nobody believes anybody or anything any more.
 
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And not updated ..But I feel there are bigger more dangerous " Des information " / " Propaganda "
out there than AI .And at the end people will chose more reliable sources

Is it not in fact a signal for people start thinking and maybe searching for more reliable information

Take Vladimir Putins Artillery
A massive amount of them was it 5 -- 10 times more than Ukraine at the start.
That was outdated hardware did not hit anything does not matter
And by the Way they was destroyed 2 years ago
And Again 1 year Ago
And Again now on the net
But they are shooting a lot as it appears not having any guns .And the Front is locked .Why don't you just walk over them if no guns left.
Cake Walk.

This is BIASED information affecting decisions and peoples lives.
No need to have AI to lie

I don't want no war anywhere ..And I would like to se Solution Focus instead of hearing non ending Bull ....t

Was a thread about those days gone .I miss the people slamming the Fist on table ... and reporters not being " Soft "
Would be simple here make the Politicians look as fools

First question ..
"Source on that information Please "
 
Mrs' son, he's living with us just now, points out that people have always lied and distorted the truth. I guess AI just enables us to do the same thing on an industrial scale?

Over the period we've run this thread, the fears about AI have shifted from 'AI taking over the World' to, effectively, losing the Truth.
 
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