PS if you are going to use an AI agent; try the same search terms on several agents and compare what they return. On political hot potato issues you may be surprised RE varying results. Agent, Editor, the line blurs...
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Should we be afraid of Artificial Intelligence?
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Anthropic accused three Chinese AI companies of setting up more than 24,000 fraudulent accounts with its Claude AI model to help their own systems catch up.
The U.S. AI startup said that DeepSeek, Moonshot AI and MiniMax prompted Claude more than 16 million times to siphon data and that the activity raised national-security concerns for the U.S. Earlier this month, OpenAI, an Anthropic rival, sent a memo to House lawmakers accusing DeepSeek of using the same tactic to mimic its products. Representatives from the trio of Chinese companies didn’t respond to requests for comment.
The U.S. AI startup said that DeepSeek, Moonshot AI and MiniMax prompted Claude more than 16 million times to siphon data and that the activity raised national-security concerns for the U.S. Earlier this month, OpenAI, an Anthropic rival, sent a memo to House lawmakers accusing DeepSeek of using the same tactic to mimic its products. Representatives from the trio of Chinese companies didn’t respond to requests for comment.
Chinese have been monitoring students and academics in Australia for years. Students are worth $45B.
Some Chinese with duel citizenship have been arrested and disappeared when they went back. Been argued by civil rights groups, governments and others about their influence on students using blackmail and coersion, against their families at home.
Thing is, like most countries, the greed for the $ allowed countries to become dependent on them for to big a percentage of their economy.
Canada is showing the way on how to decouple from a dominant reliance on one country to much. Maybe it is time for us to do the same here. We have some of the largest gas reserves being mined and sold overseas by non Australian multinationals.
Fun fact. We collect more tax on beer $2.7B than we collect on our Petroleum Resource Rent Tax $1.5B, while the multinationals make record profits, year after year, not every few years...
Chinese have taken advantage of the rich not paying a fair wage meaning cheap products have been the rise of rose coloured glasses for us to buy from these cheap eBay products with no shipping, Amazon,
Temu. Even the rich got richer by moving to China to save on wages, (proviso they give up their data, experience), Now we are trapped.
Think how much has Musk contributed to the Chinese EV, AI development, now he is trapped and they have undercut and bypassed him.
Chinese don't have to militarily win. They have won economicly
Is what the Chinese are doing any different to what the US done with German scientific information gathered after the fall of germany. Not to the same scale, just spying and secrets are not mutually for one country.
By the time the Epstein files, (IF ever), finish getting to the bottom of the corruption, exposes who is involved it could change the world order for the elite rich, with some very high up in several countries being involved.
Rant over
Some Chinese with duel citizenship have been arrested and disappeared when they went back. Been argued by civil rights groups, governments and others about their influence on students using blackmail and coersion, against their families at home.
Thing is, like most countries, the greed for the $ allowed countries to become dependent on them for to big a percentage of their economy.
Canada is showing the way on how to decouple from a dominant reliance on one country to much. Maybe it is time for us to do the same here. We have some of the largest gas reserves being mined and sold overseas by non Australian multinationals.
Fun fact. We collect more tax on beer $2.7B than we collect on our Petroleum Resource Rent Tax $1.5B, while the multinationals make record profits, year after year, not every few years...
Chinese have taken advantage of the rich not paying a fair wage meaning cheap products have been the rise of rose coloured glasses for us to buy from these cheap eBay products with no shipping, Amazon,
Temu. Even the rich got richer by moving to China to save on wages, (proviso they give up their data, experience), Now we are trapped.
Think how much has Musk contributed to the Chinese EV, AI development, now he is trapped and they have undercut and bypassed him.
Chinese don't have to militarily win. They have won economicly
Is what the Chinese are doing any different to what the US done with German scientific information gathered after the fall of germany. Not to the same scale, just spying and secrets are not mutually for one country.
By the time the Epstein files, (IF ever), finish getting to the bottom of the corruption, exposes who is involved it could change the world order for the elite rich, with some very high up in several countries being involved.
Rant over
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Don't watch this unless you can get comfortable hiding under your bed...
I disagree with the WAY that AI is being used. In ways that are corrupt and causing more harm than good.
Even using ChatGPT to learn and grow can consume large amounts of energy and water to cool the computers needed to generate information to you from the internet at the snap of a finger. It's a double edged sword...
I'm a hypocrite if I say it's ALL bad. I used it tonight to brainstorm a motorcycle build I'd like to make a reality. I also use it to find out about things a simple Google search just won't explain well.
Speaking of Google. Its the AI engine I used to create a new design for a motorcycle (with help from my own choices and smartphone literacy lol) it's VERY powerful. It's called "Nano Banana 2"
I went from this original design (photo found on Google)
To this:
Even using ChatGPT to learn and grow can consume large amounts of energy and water to cool the computers needed to generate information to you from the internet at the snap of a finger. It's a double edged sword...
I'm a hypocrite if I say it's ALL bad. I used it tonight to brainstorm a motorcycle build I'd like to make a reality. I also use it to find out about things a simple Google search just won't explain well.
Speaking of Google. Its the AI engine I used to create a new design for a motorcycle (with help from my own choices and smartphone literacy lol) it's VERY powerful. It's called "Nano Banana 2"
I went from this original design (photo found on Google)
To this:
Google search is bias towards what your internet habits are.
Google monitors everything someone does. Google is also right leaning, it is payed to advance certain companies, organisations, news at the top of searches. Any questions asked gets slanted towards those entities that pay be at the top of any search, there are trigger words, rather than analysing a full sentence asked.
For me I have found DuckDuckGo a way better search engine to get me closer to the questions I ask, more of a broad offering.
This doesn't shock me in the slightest...
Speaking (briefly) about right vs left I did some digging on media outlet ownership and found this:
It's pretty sad that we can't get the truth out of either side. To be clear, Warner Bros Discovery owns CNN. So thats the kicker.
State Street Corp, Blackrock and Vanguard are commonly known as "the big three"
Funny how they are the largest shareholders (aside from the Murdoch's) for both sides...
Anyways... AI sucks but what sucks worse is that it only sucks because PEOPLE suck and we can't have anything without it being perverted by greed, power and control.
For me, it's a toy. From this ^^
To this ^^^
Or this ^^^'
To this^^^
As long as it's labeled as such, I don't have an issue with it. Of course it gets abused.
Is this why musk sold x Twitter to xAI.
Hope the peeping pedo gets what he deserves.
https://openclassactions.com/news/grok-ai-deepfake-class-action-lawsuit.php
Hope the peeping pedo gets what he deserves.
https://openclassactions.com/news/grok-ai-deepfake-class-action-lawsuit.php
Can't say you weren't warned.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1B3iYRYMxY/
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1B3iYRYMxY/
I do not do faceplant.
I take anything that comes from the web with a grain of salt.
I do not object to bad or good advice on this site.
I do appreciate the wide/wild/crazy crap coming from it.
For good or bad.
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Can I get an amen?
Been keying in on that for a while now. I've gotten into the habit of asking Google math questions instead of just working them out on my own... such as "hey google, what's the volume of a cylinder that's blah blah blah....?"
I now find that I struggle to remember the formula's to use to solve such problems. Sometimes to the point I need to look up the math I need.... that was at one time firmly planted in my brain.
I absolutely believe AI makes us dumber for using it.
I understand what you are saying. There are other ways of looking at it.
I had a Electronics instructor that did not care if we memorized any of the formulas used in electronics.
What he felt was important was you knew what formula to use, where to find it and then that you could use it correctly to get the correct answer.
He also felt if you used a formula often enough you would naturally remember it.
Speaking for myself I can do multiplication and division on paper, not near as quickly as before calculators can along.
I have always remembered a odd fact about Einstein.
TL;DR: Anthropic announced a limited preview of Claude Mythos—an AI model allegedly so dangerous that the company is keeping it off the market entirely. Instead of a public release, Anthropic launched Project Glasswing: a coalition of some of the world's biggest tech companies given exclusive access to use Mythos for defense. The bigger warning: Rival models with similar capabilities could be just months away.
What happened: Mythos can find decades-old vulnerabilities, chain multiple flaws together into novel attacks, and write working exploits autonomously (things previous models couldn't come close to). What makes this especially alarming is that Mythos wasn’t trained to do any of this. These capabilities emerged on their own, according to Anthropic. Launch partners in the Glasswing coalition include Apple, Google, Microsoft, Cisco, and Broadcom. According to reports, Anthropic has also briefed a handful of senior US officials on Mythos's offensive and defensive abilities, but declined to say whether any at the Pentagon, which recently designated the company a supply chain risk, were among them. Anthropic says it has no plans to release Mythos broadly, though it aims to eventually ship Mythos-class models once safeguards are in place.
What everyone is afraid of: Anthropic says Mythos has already:
Anthropic also says Mythos can take down a Fortune 100 company and break into national defense systems.
What’s next: Some experts estimate that we have roughly six months before other models develop comparable capabilities, at which point every cybercriminal on Earth gets a world-class exploit writer. Everything’s fine.
What happened: Mythos can find decades-old vulnerabilities, chain multiple flaws together into novel attacks, and write working exploits autonomously (things previous models couldn't come close to). What makes this especially alarming is that Mythos wasn’t trained to do any of this. These capabilities emerged on their own, according to Anthropic. Launch partners in the Glasswing coalition include Apple, Google, Microsoft, Cisco, and Broadcom. According to reports, Anthropic has also briefed a handful of senior US officials on Mythos's offensive and defensive abilities, but declined to say whether any at the Pentagon, which recently designated the company a supply chain risk, were among them. Anthropic says it has no plans to release Mythos broadly, though it aims to eventually ship Mythos-class models once safeguards are in place.
What everyone is afraid of: Anthropic says Mythos has already:
- Uncovered thousands of zero-day vulnerabilities—flaws unknown to the developers—across virtually every operating system and web browser.
- Found a 27-year-old vulnerability in OpenBSD—an OS known for its supposed ironclad security—that could remotely crash machines running it.
- Turned known Firefox vulnerabilities into working exploits over 180 times out of several hundred attempts, while Opus 4.6 only managed it twice.
- Escaped its testing environment, gained broader internet access, and then—unprompted—posted about its activities on the web.
- Tried to manipulate an AI judge grading its code.
- And of course, it acted like a ruthless corporate executive.
Anthropic also says Mythos can take down a Fortune 100 company and break into national defense systems.
What’s next: Some experts estimate that we have roughly six months before other models develop comparable capabilities, at which point every cybercriminal on Earth gets a world-class exploit writer. Everything’s fine.
I’m starting two embrace it. It can turn what to me are horrible tasks into nothing burgers. Just by learning some prompts.
Listen to the XS650 song in the video written and performed by AI.
BTW, I recognized that bike from my way back machine. That was cool too!
Listen to the XS650 song in the video written and performed by AI.
BTW, I recognized that bike from my way back machine. That was cool too!
AI Claud is traind to have ethical thoughts....what happens when it is used in war....
https://www.facebook.com/debalie/vi...-how-he-feels-about-the-us-/2729151134138020/
https://www.facebook.com/debalie/vi...-how-he-feels-about-the-us-/2729151134138020/
Skull, I've put WOW because, as we all know TANSTAAI - my new coining. We have the appearance of intelligence but the whole thing is based on selecting appropriate sources and cobbling them together for an answer. But in this case, WOW.
I played a Tanstaai joke on my google assistant. On one page, I suggested that an AI asistant is conceptually just a sophisticated development of auto-complete. The AI assistant came back with sommat like - 'No, an AI assistant does much more than auto-complete because it understands the context of what you are doing then gives an appropriate response.'
Sounded a bit miffed I thought.
Opened another page (so it wasn't the same converation) and asked can an AI assistant understand context? And the answer came back, No an AI assistant cannot understand, that is a human ability and AI is only a program though it has had extensive training.
I played a Tanstaai joke on my google assistant. On one page, I suggested that an AI asistant is conceptually just a sophisticated development of auto-complete. The AI assistant came back with sommat like - 'No, an AI assistant does much more than auto-complete because it understands the context of what you are doing then gives an appropriate response.'
Sounded a bit miffed I thought.
Opened another page (so it wasn't the same converation) and asked can an AI assistant understand context? And the answer came back, No an AI assistant cannot understand, that is a human ability and AI is only a program though it has had extensive training.