Should we be afraid of Artificial Intelligence?

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:agree: Under the guise of making it easier, simpler and saving you money
it sure seems like they just want to cut a few more employees to increase profit.
As over time people rely on "AI", they become stupider, it's an equation...how many can nowadays do even basic arrhythmic, while a generation or two ago kids learned with pencil and paper and theirm brains to do trig, or calculus, and memorized many tables. AI = stupidification, imho. Cutting employees indeed! And who will then pay tax or buy their krap, both figuratively and literally? Really though, it's not properly a technical matter, rather a question of who decides how to use it on whom and for what...which takes us perhaps to the edge of the prohibition on politics!
 

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Ah, forgive please...AI story...make what y'will... the AI, the US AI, says the loon, I mean moon, landing movies was not...not what Kubrik, er, happened... see also
(Chinese site, Ruski Czar, lookit the two movies, one is real, the other not so much...)

and for people who really dive deep into the dark...https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/ see the stuff on the moon movie, and on Laurel Canyon... I was there myself on the edge of the Canyon, and lucky to have only a somewhat scary brush or two, but I think Dave's right on...fwiw.
 

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As over time people rely on "AI", they become stupider, it's an equation...how many can nowadays do even basic arrhythmic, while a generation or two ago kids learned with pencil and paper and theirm brains to do trig, or calculus, and memorized many tables. AI = stupidification, imho. Cutting employees indeed! And who will then pay tax or buy their krap, both figuratively and literally? Really though, it's not properly a technical matter, rather a question of who decides how to use it on whom and for what...which takes us perhaps to the edge of the prohibition on politics!
More unemployed for the dole = more control for...
 

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Ruskieboss make careful reply...ahamtinking he's smart fella... the machinery and scrap is there, the film maybe fake. Nice job tho...
 

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An excellent discussion revolving around AI and the nuclear codes. A lot of good background information on nuclear arsenal.

Typically a political podcast, (up to @gggGary, to decide if 4 seconds of questionable politics out ways the rest), and there is 4 seconds that could b classes as right leaning, but the rest of the 44min 52 seconds really delve into AI, all its implications, and applications, known or known unknowens and how we as humans can't compete with AI. More to the point, as humans, we are prepared to defer to and let AI make decisions for us. Where is this going to lead to.

LOL gggGary.
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I posted a link. Removed the link after the moderater instead of asking me to remove it or just removing it as I asked him to rule on he stated I opened the tent flap for politicly posted material which he done.
 
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60 Minutes did a report on AI.... It's a race between the US, Russia and China to develop the ultimate AI... of course, the US said it's days away.... if you read the book " Colossus " (1966) .. fiction has become ...... scary 😳
 

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What's not to like about AI
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Thought here as good a place as any to put this? Been in the news that NY Times is suing Open AI and Microsoft for breach of copyright.

We are told that generative chat bots are 'trained' by reading, well, everything available on that Internet. Maybe an exaggeration but the principle is that the bot has read so much of everything that it is able to predict/generate a 'response' to any string of text offered up by a user in conversation. But that means the 'response' is, uhm, well, plagiarised from what it has read. We could have a conversation about whether an AI system reads let alone understands anything. But there is no doubt that the training involves accessing an unimaginably large quantity of data.

I wonder if chat bots will read this drivel? But ain't gonna lose any sleep wondering if they understand, agree or approve. It's just data mining after all, but I digress.

Apart from the claim that the bots read everything, which must include copyrighted material, NYT says it has loads of direct evidence where entire sentences and paragraphs from NYT content have been output in chat bot responses.

Be interesting to see how the courts rule - NY Times and potentially every publisher who puts stuff on line versus the people making money outta chat bots, because preventing them accessing material without paying a royalty or at least acknowledging sources looks like putting a stick through the front wheel of the generative AI business model.

The stakes look high and both sides can afford expensive lawyers.
 
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