Shouldn't this thing come off my tripple clamp?

[GuitarGuy1996]

Hey guys! So I've got a 1979 XS750. I'm taking it down to the frame and having the frame and some other bits powder coated. I'm almost done but I can't seem to get this collar off the lower part of the triple clamp/steering stem. There was a tapered bearing over top of it that shattered when I tried to take it off but it left this collar. I've been beating on it with a dead blow and a screw driver with no luck. Before I went ahead and put heat on it and started going crazy on it, I wanted to check with you guys. This thing does come off right? All of them I see on ebay still have the bearing on it but I'm guessing they just didn't wanna mess with it? Thanks guys.

 

[jpdevol]

Yep, that's the inner sleeve of the tapered bearing and it does (must) come off. A bearing separator and a hydraulic press should do the trick (might get by without the press)
https://www.harborfreight.com/bearing-separator-and-puller-set-62593.html

There are other methods slightly more clumsy - cutting wheels & chisels come to mind

 

[GuitarGuy1996]

Ok phew, I thought I'd have to order a new tripe clamp for a sec. Thank you!

 

[kshansen]

If you have or know someone with an oxy-acetylene torch you could heat that "collar" ,actually inner race for the bearing, fast enough that it might just drop off on it's own weight.

Be carefull hitting it too hard as it could shatter or chip off pieces that could hurt you. If my dad ws still around he could explain that to you as he was standing near while someone smacked a hammer on a larger bearing and had a chip go into one eye! Lost much of the vision from that eye!

 

[gggGary]

One more cat skinning method.
Cut off wheel in a dremel, make two opposed slots at an angle. The angle lets you get deeper without hitting the stem. then the cold chisel in one of the slots

 

[GuitarGuy1996]

One more cat skinning method.
Cut off wheel in a dremel, make two opposed slots at an angle. The angle lets you get deeper without hitting the stem. then the cold chisel in one of the slots

I've been thinking about trying that, I got old stuck bearings off longboard trucks back in college that way. I wasn't the most patient or steady handed back then though and would always chew up the axles so I've been kinda iffy on doing it on the stem but that may be my best bet.

 

[gggGary]

Get this kit, trust me. Every serious (and most not so serious) home shop needs it.
The mount allows the blade to "wobble" without breaking.

 

[GuitarGuy1996]

If you have or know someone with an oxy-acetylene torch you could heat that "collar" ,actually inner race for the bearing, fast enough that it might just drop off on it's own weight.

Be carefull hitting it too hard as it could shatter or chip off pieces that could hurt you. If my dad ws still around he could explain that to you as he was standing near while someone smacked a hammer on a larger bearing and had a chip go into one eye! Lost much of the vision from that eye!

Sorry to hear about your dad, that's nuts! Honestly, I'm probably gonna soak it in pb blaster and either use a dremmel or the bearing puller kit the first guy was talking about. I don't have a torch and I live in a rental so I'm sure the landlords would love me playing with flame throwers

 

[GuitarGuy1996]

Get this kit, trust me. Every serious (and most not so serious) home shop needs it.
The mount allows the blade to "wobble" without breaking.
View attachment 235989

That's awesome! I didn't know that existed!

 

[gggGary]

Save that rubber seal! it will stretch and come off over the bearing race.

Attacked this on the lathe yeasterday. The triple was bent, no longer remember why the clamps were hacked off and wanted to save the stem for an XS750 fork conversion project patiently waiting in the shed.

 

[GuitarGuy1996]

The rubber seal sheared off after a few hits with a hammer. I'll have to get a new one

 

[magoo66]

Save that rubber seal! it will stretch and come off over the bearing race.

Attacked this on the lathe yeasterday. The triple was bent, no longer remember why the clamps were hacked off and wanted to save the stem for an XS750 fork conversion project patiently waiting in the shed.

Just reviewing some bearings threads and caught this. I do recall the conversation and how to.

 

[magoo66]

Just reviewing some bearings threads and caught this. I do recall the conversation and how to.

And now one patiently waiting in my shed.

 

[DogBunny]

Are we all talking about the same thing here? The bottom-most race on the steering stem?
You don't need anything fancy to remove it. Just an extremely thin screwdriver. Find a place where you can get some purchase on it between the race and the triple as you pound it in. You want to open up a tiny gap. Then work that gap all the way around, and go up to successively larger screwdrivers. You only need to move it up about 1/4", and then the stem tapers down and it slides right off.