Sidecar winter project

fredintoon said:
Hi Tinker,
most likely things have changed in the UK since I emigrated in 1969 but back then a motorcycle's insurance cost would be cut in half if you added a sidecar.
Once you learn how to operate a sidecar rig it's far safer to ride than a solo bike.
Admittedly there's no crumple zones & such to protect you and no way a rig will split traffic but OTOH a rig can't fall over,
you can see all round and nobody can distract you by yelling in your ear about trivia.
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I have proved that underlined bit is not always true on a couple occasions! Both times were when I was doing stupid things like doughnuts to the right in the snow and then cut throttle. Amazing how good traction the knobbies can have at times like that!
 
kshansen said:
I have proved that underlined bit is not always true on a couple occasions! Both times were when I was doing stupid things like doughnuts to the right in the snow and then cut throttle. Amazing how good traction the knobbies can have at times like that!
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Hi Ken,
OK then, can we agree that a rig can't fall over unless it's made to do so by breaking what used to the UK's only bicycle law,
"You may not ride a bicycle furiously"?
 
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Quite pleased with the Winter Sidecar project progress since literally cutting it out of a tree less than a month ago.The added knowledge from comments and photos obtained here have made a long overdue project idea even more interesting and enjoyable thus far. I do have a ways to go before the final painting process hopefully in the spring.Best Holiday wishes to you all.Ride safe.
 
magoo66 said:
View attachment 203163 Quite pleased with the Winter Sidecar project progress since literally cutting it out of a tree less than a month ago.The added knowledge from comments and photos obtained here have made a long overdue project idea even more interesting and enjoyable thus far. I do have a ways to go before the final painting process hopefully in the spring.Best Holiday wishes to you all.Ride safe.
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magoo66 said:
Quite pleased with the Winter Sidecar project progress since literally cutting it out of a tree less than a month ago.The added knowledge from comments and photos obtained here have made a long overdue project idea even more interesting and enjoyable thus far. I do have a ways to go before the final painting process hopefully in the spring.Best Holiday wishes to you all.Ride safe.
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Not sure what your experience is with mounting a sidecar but just for fun I'm attaching a page out of a manual I got many years back when I was new to the hacks.
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kshansen said:
Not sure what your experience is with mounting a sidecar but just for fun I'm attaching a page out of a manual I got many years back when I was new to the hacks.
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I have seen this before but surely appreciate your sharing your information regardless.It is all very relevant.
 
magoo66 said:
I’m definitely fortunate to have a little almost 6year old buddy fueling my fire on this project.Thats a Yes
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Actually that’s a Yes with a thank-you Gary for a firm wise suggestion to start a thread on this Sidecar project idea.Its a new reality twist on old m/c wanna do someday project.Great group.
 
kshansen said:
Not sure what your experience is with mounting a sidecar but just for fun I'm attaching a page out of a manual I got many years back when I was new to the hacks.
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Hi Ken,
other dimensions on other pages?
I'd say that your sidecar wheel lead dimension "C" should be from zero (Harleys) ~3" (plunger-frames & rigids) & ~10" (swingarm frames)
The longer the lead, the "sportier" the handling. The shorter the lead, the easier it is to nosedive on left turns.
Track width, I built my first rig with 54" track because that's what the sidecar manufacturer recommended.
I stayed with the 54" track on subsequent rigs so they'd fit my homebuilt sidecar trailer.
I set my Sidecar wheel toe-in (1/2" to 3/4") and bike lean-out (3/8" to 5/8")
 
Don't know if you have seen this. PDF, (bottom of post). Pretty comprehensive information on setting up a sidecar.

Don't now where i got these pics from. Some close ups of the setup.
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Looks like the guy wasn't happy with having a powered sidecar.
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650Skull said:
Don't know if you have seen this. PDF, (bottom of post). Pretty comprehensive information on setting up a sidecar.

Don't now where i got these pics from. Some close ups of the setup.
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Looks like the guy wasn't happy with having a powered sidecar.
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650Skull said:
Don't know if you have seen this. PDF, (bottom of post). Pretty comprehensive information on setting up a sidecar.

Don't now where i got these pics from. Some close ups of the setup.
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Looks like the guy wasn't happy with having a powered sidecar.
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fredintoon said:
Hi Ken,
other dimensions on other pages?
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Dimensions I always thought of as only starting points to be adjusted as to riding style and other things. I'm not seeing any thing on recommended track width and I would have to go out and measure my Sportster/Hannigan outfit to see where I have it set but 54 inches sounds like a good starting point.

I'll attach a couple more pages out of this old book:
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